Ps4 or xbox one and most anticipated games ?

[hemiv8]

Xbox One with Forza 5, and Battlefield 4 for me!

[LABiM75&StrF51]

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PS3 at least for a few Generations....
These things never work right 1st Gen.

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[dderek123]

"Who's buying and building new PCs? Gamers, that's who"

http://www.zdnet.com/whos-buying-and...ho-7000019112/

"PC gamers are, according to Jon Peddie Research, buying and building PCs "with a fervency that could be compared to motorcycle, 4X4, and sports car enthusiasts, always looking for more speed, power, utility, and handling." This is likely to be good news for all the major PC players, especially given that high-end gaming bits command a greater profit margin than budget and mainstream parts."

[hiten369]

Ps4 or xbox one and most anticipated games?

Well neither for now. Mostly because I'm to poor. But I'm leaning towards the Xbox One because Microsoft recently announced that you can self publish on the Xbox One. As a game dev that's a big win.

most anticipated games?
Here comes the long list:
Assassin's Creed 4*
Batman: Arkham Origins*
Final Fantasy 15 - if it ever comes out
Kingdom Hearts 3 - if it ever comes out
Metal Gear Solid 5
Mirror's Edge 2 - Oh hell YES!!!
The Division
Watch Dogs
The Witcher 3
Dragon Age 3 - yes I mean it, watch the PAX videos on youtube
Infamous: Second Son - only if I get a PS4

[GroobyKrissy]

I think it only includes PC devices (no phones, tablets, macs etc.)
But i think it includes facebook games and whatnot:
"Nvidia doesn't break down its data according to genre or service, but much of this newly-discovered cash is coming from the social gaming crowd, as well as from new business models."
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvi...ing,13499.html
But the versatility of a PC is one of there many strengths

Also:
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PC-...ware,6613.html
This is from 2008
"If PC gaming is dying, as many have claimed, why are gaming-oriented PCs selling so well? Market analyst Jon Peddie estimates that the market for PC gaming hardware stands at $20 billion today—and predicts it will expand to $34 billion by 2012."

Pretty easy to answer the second question. People are largely uninformed shoppers. Your average Joe off the street walks into Best Buy to buy a computer. He looks for the fastest processor speed for the cheapest amount of money and maybe factors in RAM amounts. This type of computer is often going to be a budget gaming PC, which are usually billed as multipurpose machines. Fast processor, good RAM amount... the two things that drive PC sales to the average buyer. He buys a gaming PC not even intending to use it as such... he just wants a computer that will play his YouTube videos faster.

Older desktops are getting older. As the economy improves, people will replace their old machines with Windows 8 units. Many of these are considered "gaming" ready (read the stickers on the sales tags at Best Buy or Fry's) and are probably being counted in this data pool.

Also, PC gaming HARDWARE is different from actual gaming computers. Heck, I alone within the past couple months have purchased 3 "gaming mice" (MMO7) and 3 "gaming keyboards" (Roccat Isku) to replace my old ones. It doesn't mean I game with them... it means they have functions that I can use (programmable macros) to increase productivity.

Overall, these are good trends to site for the computer industry but I think the data loses some credibility when / if you're trying to apply it specifically to the gaming industry unless you can definitively prove that the purchasers are using the units and accessories for gaming purposes alone.

[dderek123]

Find us a make-up GIF now, OK?

[GroobyKrissy]

Well done And from one of my favorite shows

[dderek123]

Pretty easy to answer the second question. People are largely uninformed shoppers. Your average Joe off the street walks into Best Buy to buy a computer. He looks for the fastest processor speed for the cheapest amount of money and maybe factors in RAM amounts. This type of computer is often going to be a budget gaming PC, which are usually billed as multipurpose machines. Fast processor, good RAM amount... the two things that drive PC sales to the average buyer. He buys a gaming PC not even intending to use it as such... he just wants a computer that will play his YouTube videos faster.

PC Gamers aren't a part of this group. We're the master race. And we're growing in number and keep spending money.

Older desktops are getting older. As the economy improves, people will replace their old machines with Windows 8 units. Many of these are considered "gaming" ready (read the stickers on the sales tags at Best Buy or Fry's) and are probably being counted in this data pool.

PC Gamers wouldn't do that. I would if I was low on money though.

Also, PC gaming HARDWARE is different from actual gaming computers. Heck, I alone within the past couple months have purchased 3 "gaming mice" (MMO7) and 3 "gaming keyboards" (Roccat Isku) to replace my old ones. It doesn't mean I game with them... it means they have functions that I can use (programmable macros) to increase productivity.

I'm a bit confused by this. The numbers from those blog posts included keyboards and mice but a cpu and motherboard combo, i would guess, accounts for a lot more of that revenue in the figure. Lol keyboards and mice seriously?

Overall, these are good trends to site for the computer industry but I think the data loses some credibility when / if you're trying to apply it specifically to the gaming industry unless you can definitively prove that the purchasers are using the units and accessories for gaming purposes alone.

I see your point but it only loses some credibility not all. It's still valid to the gaming indusrty. I've used my gaming mouse and keyboard while browsing this site. That doesn't change the original concept of the device. Besides, the versatility of the PC is one of its many strengths. Definitively proving how people are making use of what they are buying would be pretty difficult. But, imagine a survey could be done to get a slightly different idea. Even then, most surveys are flawed and generally aren't that credible or valid well thats what I learned in university.

From the article:
“Retail software figures are not an accurate barometer for the health of the PC gaming industry,” said report co-author Ted Pollak. “The retail numbers don’t capture the casual and digitally distributed games, either.

"It will come as no surprise to this audience that in addition to the market for fully assembled PCs, Peddie “discovered a robust market of do-it-yourselfers and consumers who upgrade their PCs with high-performance gaming graphics boards.”

"The report also predicts that the ongoing economic recession could stymie the growth of the console gaming market because consumers might be reluctant to invest in the HDTVs needed to deliver the best gaming experience with those systems. Personal computers, Peddie surmises, are useful for a much broader range of applications than televisions and gaming consoles."

[GroobyKrissy]

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I'm a bit confused by this. The numbers from those blog posts included keyboards and mice but a cpu and motherboard combo, i would guess, accounts for a lot more of that revenue in the figure. Lol keyboards and mice seriously?

I see your point but it only loses some credibility not all. It's still valid to the gaming indusrty. I've used my gaming mouse and keyboard while browsing this site. That doesn't change the original concept of the device.

"It will come as no surprise to this audience that in addition to the market for fully assembled PCs, Peddie “discovered a robust market of do-it-yourselfers and consumers who upgrade their PCs with high-performance gaming graphics boards.”

"The report also predicts that the ongoing economic recession could stymie the growth of the console gaming market because consumers might be reluctant to invest in the HDTVs needed to deliver the best gaming experience with those systems. Personal computers, Peddie surmises, are useful for a much broader range of applications than televisions and gaming consoles."

A. You'd be surprised how much a good mouse and keyboard costs. My MMO7 is $149.00 and my Roccat Keyboard was $129.00. Together that is $278.99. I bought 3 of each for a total of $836.97 and I will probably replace them in all in a year (I type so much that my main keyboard already has squeaky keys (Roccat... love your keyboards but you need to solve this problem.). My accessories alone for my desktop computers equals 4 fairly decent video cards, 2 gaming grade processors, a buttload of RAM, or 2-3 very nice MOBO's. I am just one person with a main computer, an office, and a portable setup that I use with my laptop. Multiply those expenditures by all the graphics designers (I was directed to these by a graphics designer friend of mine who was saying how much time she saved using programmable macros), photo editors, photographers, etc... You've got A LOT of money there.

B. Actual usage changes the intent of the graph, which is to show that gaming is growing in strength due to gaming hardware purchased. However, if those accessories are not used for gaming at all, but just as I use them, but the data pool still counts them, it skews the data. Something marketed as gaming, and counted as such when purchased, isn't used to support the actual gaming industry... so it really shouldn't be counted.

C. Graphics cards have so many different uses it is difficult to narrow this down. My company recently purchased gaming grade graphics cards (or upgraded whole units) for all computers (I don't know an exact number but I'm guessing around 100 PC's for my floor and probably another 50 or so for the floor above) because we want everyone to have dual DVI / HDMI monitors for productivity reasons. It has nothing to do with gaming but that is a fairly large purchase of cards... or "building" of computers.

D. The last paragraph, IMO is nonsense. Most consumers who are going to purchase HDTV's have... so the equipment already exists to play console games. The TV used only touches the "experience" of gaming... it doesn't preclude it. In other words, you can still game on a yellow, red, white cable (the proper term escapes me at the moment), your experience is just diminished slightly. With a computer, if you don't have the "recommended specs", your game may barely play at all.

Good gravy... I now find myself nearing the end of the work day having accomplished very little . I LOVE threads like this .