Where Do You Place On The Scale?

[MacShreach]

Isn't it possible that an escort could manipulate you into feeling that you belong in a certain category? Furthermore, the category they pick for you could be based on how profitable it would be for her to keep seeing you once the fantasy relationship is established.

Not saying all escorts are like that. Its never happened to me. My last two girlfriends are TS and I was really happy with them for the most part.

That is one of the reasons I wouldn't have a relationship with an escort, other than friendship or business. I am certain not all escorts would manipulate like that, there's good and bad everywhere, and I draw no distinction between cis-women and transwomen here.

At a very minimum, in the hypothetical case that I was so blown away by a girl I really wanted to take it further, I would insist she gave up sex work first. Commitment works both ways.

And yes I have met girls in p4p I really really liked, but self-discipline was my rod and staff!

[dderek123]

That is one of the reasons I wouldn't have a relationship with an escort, other than friendship or business. I am certain not all escorts would manipulate like that, there's good and bad everywhere, and I draw no distinction between cis-women and transwomen here.

At a very minimum, in the hypothetical case that I was so blown away by a girl I really wanted to take it further, I would insist she gave up sex work first. Commitment works both ways.

And yes I have met girls in p4p I really really liked, but self-discipline was my rod and staff!

lol rod and staff


Usually those things get me in more trouble.

[OHighOMan92]

I don't think any women on here has a view on me or even cares I'm here haha

[BeardedOne]

Wow, just wow. You make the unbelievable assumption that all trans women are escorts prostitutes. You also make the assumption that all men are nothing but tricks. Okay

I'm assuming that this comment was directed at me (Please correct me if I am wrong).

I may have been unclear in my original post, but the conversation that started this line of thinking was specifically related to people/women we know in the sex industry (Though not limited to trans women) and the clients they encounter.

Speaking for myself, I take no offense at being considered a 'trick', but I have a personal history that has led to that station as being preferable/optimal to the alternatives. Your mileage may vary.

I'm catching up here at a rather late (For me) hour and will respond further after some rest and review. I'm really rather pleased that there's been some decent response to this thread and I'd like to give some reasonable thought in return.

[dabaldone]

I meant no disrespect brother. It's just the post seemed a bit...more from the view of someone who only say transwomen one way. If I'm incorrect, my apologies. I will admit that my initial contact with transwomen was with sex workers. I have since expanded my horizons much to my delight.

[RallyCola]

Pardon my asking, but didn't you once say you were married, an assistant professor and then were like whoopee because you were getting a few more sheckels every 2 weeks??

yes, i am married and i am an assistant professor of neurology and neuroscience in ny. in july, my salary nearly doubled as a fellow makes a decent salary but as an attending with teaching responsibilities that is now tenure-track, i'm quite pleased with my new salary.

my wife knew about my tranny obsessions before we were married and i am allowed to visit escorts when we are apart. she is a research associate in neuroscience (hopefully soon to be assistant professor as well) and when either of us are away at a conference, it is my chance to play. for example, sfn is in 2 months. this year, i won't have a poster there but she is giving a mini-symposium. she will be in san diego so i will be able to stay home and employ the services of a lovely lady. i turned 35 last weekend and decided that i'm not going to go for CL ladies anymore but rather only verified and well reviewed escorts from now on. my goal is to, in the next year, to have sex with at least 2 of my most favored models. thinking ahead to the conference schedule and a visit she has to make to dallas without me, i will have at least 5 opportunities before I turn 36 to realize this goal. between sept 12 and 13, i only had 3 chances to play and 2 (with CL girls in queens, ny) were less than stellar experiences. so, just thinking ahead to the next year of my life...at the very least, hopefully from a "banging tgirls" aspect, it will be better because at least i should be able to bang 2 more.

do i wish i could indulge more often....yeah, when i hear that someone like Aubrey Kate is in NYC for a tranny strip party, i do wish i could play anytime i want, but i can't.

do i wish i wasn't married and could date a tgirl....absolutely not. i love my wife and would not leave her for any woman, no matter what she has between her legs. i said it before, i make no emotional attachment to any escort. i also don't confuse sexual attraction to porn with what a girl may be like off camera because i don't know any of these models personally to know if we could mesh in terms of personality.

i have never once said that i am anything more than i am. i employ the services of escorts to fulfill sexual desires. i do not want to date an escort, i cannot fall in love with an escort. my wife has outright asked me that if she passed away, would i date a transwoman and the answer i gave her is the one she expected. if i were back on the dating scene, i would seek to date any woman i found physically and emotionally attractive, regardless of what was between her legs.

so, after all of that, i don't know which of the OPs words best describe me so i'll just go with i'm a chaser and i'm quite happy to be one.

[MacShreach]

yes, i am married....snip

rOFLMFaO legendary put-down.

[fred41]

do i wish i could indulge more often....yeah, when i hear that someone like Aubrey Kate is in NYC for a tranny strip party, i do wish i could play anytime i want, but i can't.

Did happen to see her there Rally...she looked good.

[RallyCola]

Did happen to see her there Rally...she looked good.

lucky fuck

[BeardedOne]

I meant no disrespect brother. It's just the post seemed a bit...more from the view of someone who only say transwomen one way. If I'm incorrect, my apologies. I will admit that my initial contact with transwomen was with sex workers. I have since expanded my horizons much to my delight.

Oh, no worries. You also have to remember where we are. Though I do know a fair number of transwomen in more 'traditional' occupations (Electrician, IT specialist, programmer, etc.), I know more that are in the oldest profession primarily from my time spent reading and posting in adult entertainment forums. It's from the latter perspective that I was expressing my views, particularly as relates to my own intimate experiences with these women.

your categories are incomplete.

i see the same providers more than once when warranted, pay for girls i find worth it (not $1500 for 30 min but within reason), but see as many different escorts as possible because i like variety. i have no more respect for an escort than i do my waiter or my valet. all of these people are are providing a service and being compensated for it. i expect at least an hour of service or more and expect an attentive escort that can provide a romantic GFE.

i have no emotional attachment to any woman i pay for sex so where does that leave me.

methinks you will say player, but by your descriptions above, that i'm wealthy enough to pay for top escorts and as I don't negotiate, I'm not a player.

As Ecstatic said above, my reference of 'Player' really isn't accurate (Or, as likely, would allow for another category of 'Chaser'). I didn't think of adding that level, probably because of my dislike of the term 'Chaser', which has similar negative connotations in tow as does the word 'shemale'. That said, there's certainly space between those first two references for what you've described.

Isn't it possible that an escort could manipulate you into feeling that you belong in a certain category? Furthermore, the category they pick for you could be based on how profitable it would be for her to keep seeing you once the fantasy relationship is established.

Not saying all escorts are like that. Its never happened to me. My last two girlfriends are TS and I was really happy with them for the most part.

What you describe is exactly what I'd expect from a sharp and talented escort/courtesan. It is, of course, in their best financial interests to present you with what is commonly referred to as the GFE/Girlfriend Experience, the fantasy or temporary 'reality' that you are a true couple. I've never been so naive as to believe that I was the love of their life or their BFF after a single hour of boot-knocking, but there have been a couple with whom I've had an ongoing conversation/correspondence outside of our commercial contact time. It would be unrealistic of me to think I was the 'Boyfriend', but in light of further study I might be thought of as 'Chaser 2.0'.


My own reasoning for dating commercially, aside from the obvious adventure of spending intimate time with an exotic transwoman, is a prickly combination of bad relationship history, a general discomfort around people (Call it 'shyness' to simplify the concept), and a desire to streamline the dating game to its very basic construct of dinner, drinks, and spectacular, slippery sex acts. Add in my poly mindset and the fact that I have typically been involved in multiple/concurrent relationships and the variety aspect satisfies as well.

I try to present myself not so much as 'Boyfriend' as I try not to be 'that client' that the gurls come to rant about from time to time. Treating them more as a human being than as a slab of meat and having a little bit more of a verbal discourse with them beyond "How much?" and "Time's up!". When I encounter one with whom I have a nice, comfortable time, both in and out of bed, I am likely to visit them again as well as have a bit more of a sort of 'friendship lite' with them. The latter being primarily on their terms and having somewhat of a comparison to how a celebrity might interact with a fan club member (One that isn't too much of a stalker).