Rod Daily tweets hes HIV Postitive

[TSLoverIB]

I should have known better than to argue with a conspiracy theorist.

You forget that treatment only affects those who have the disease, while a preventive measure such as a vaccine can be administered to the entire world population. The CDC says that there are currently 35 million people living with HIV around the world. World population is 7 billion. Which target market would you prefer to have a product aimed at, 35million, or 7 billion?

But lets say that between now and 15 years from now the number of HIV cases triples to 105 million. That's unlikely to happen but just for shits and grins lets go ahead and make that assumption. And we'll also assume everyone pays $30,000 a year for treatment, going off your $2500 a month number. Not figuring inflation, price erosion, or any of a host of other variables in, you get about $47.3 trillion for treatment if that 105 million cases was treated the whole 15 years. Now lets say 3 billion of the world's 7 billion people get a one time treatment for $30,000. That comes out to $90 trillion. Which one would appeal more to the greedy corporations you think?

In addition, you've noted that one patient paying $2500 a month for 15 years is $450,000. You also mentioned that the price is declining, so that $2500 can be expected to decline further, eroding your $450,000 to even less than that. That is not a good investment. Companies want to keep margins up, not see their goods become commodities. And especially in Pharmaceutical companies, generics manufacturers are ready to eat those margins up as soon as the patent expires, so you need to get your money in before it does.

If you do any basic time value of money computation you can determine that any investment returning only 3% (basically just a tiny amount more than inflation) over that same period would yield $567,000. You're going to tell me the greedy company is going to settle for $450,000 (or less because of price erosion) instead of getting $567,000? What about investing it and getting a 5% return, and yielding $676,000 over that 15 year period? Any company would be happy to be able to get their investment out of treating HIV and reinvest in bigger returns.

What was that about intelligent individuals now? For someone who has Gordon Gecko in his avatar, you are extremely naïve about finance and economics.

You have a decent thinking mind, i am not a conspiracy theorist, Did i insult you in my previous comments? NO
I am a REALIST.
You believe they will charge $30,000 for a cure? What world do you live in.
You are wishful thinking , I am naive about finance and economics ? haha

Try to find ONE company charging $30,000 for a HPV Vaccine.

You believe 35 Million are currently infected ?
You think everyone infected has been accounted for ?
Welcome TO THE REAL WORLD.......

Buy the time drug companies start pumping out drugs, and all companies begin making it, no insurance company would ever pay that.

So lets speak now with realism, 7 billion people, and as you stated say 3 billion get the vaccine, at even $5,000 which is unlikely, as it will be much lower is a ONE Time cost of $35 Trillion.
Now as you stated 35 million are currently infected that they KNOW OF, so lets say 50 Million total.
Treatment, lets not say $2500 Per Month, Lets say even as low as Charging $1500 a Month X 12 Months = $18,000 X 50 Million people is $9 Trillion.

So let us review
One Time Cost : $35 Trillion in Profits
Treating 50 Million yearly:$9 Trillion YEARLY
Now Lets not forget AZT was approved in 1987, and today is 2013
And that is how many years?

So once again, your math just does not justify what has been made in profits of since the first treatment rolled out in 1987, as well as current greed, even with inflation in minds of drug companies.


One FANTASTIC Update as well, as i previously posted.
http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/0...ds-in-monkeys/

A Step Closer hopefully...

[serial138]

If I insulted you before, I apologize. That was not my intention.

I'm not following your logic about more infections than what the CDC is reporting. You want to assume that 50 million cases are treated yearly when only 35 million cases are reported. So the extra 15 million cases nobody knows of, they're just taking the treatment for fun? Or if they aren't reported, then how are they getting these expensive treatments monthly? Do they even know they're infected? Are drug companies shipping treatment drugs and not telling anyone? While I could grant you there is a decent number of cases not accounted for because of timing errors and miscommunication, I doubt that number is almost one and a half times the size of the currently reported infections.

Also your math is a bit off. 3 billion people getting a $5000 treatment is $15 trillion, not $35 trillion. You gave the entire world population the vaccine. But 50 million people getting a $1500 treatment monthly comes out to $900 billion annually as well. So if we stick with your numbers, in a 15 year span getting $15 trillion this year and never receiving a dime again comes out to about $23.37 trillion at 3% annually. If you start with $900 billion now (I'll spot you an extra year here for money in the bank) and do 15 annual payments of $900 billion and compound the interest you get a return of $18.14 trillion. I'm thinking most drug companies would be happy with the one time payment that nets them over $5 trillion more.

Now I will grant you treatment has made a ton of money in the past, but as any financier can tell you, past performance does not guarantee future success. All that money has been made, and spent, already. Never assume because a venture was profitable in the past means it will remain that way. You can't make money off the past, only the future.

Not even talking money wise though, no company would be crazy enough not to pursue a cure like a vaccine. Remember you can't give a vaccine to someone who already has the disease, it does nothing for them. You still get to rake in your treatment money AND make a ton of cash immediately. And even if you are big evil corporation that doesn't want a cure so you can grow your treatment business, small greedy company that wants to make a name for itself IS going to go after that cure so they can make a ton of cash and erode your market share, possibly leap frogging you and becoming the dominant player. And lets not even consider what would happen to any company or employee found to be actively suppressing a cure.

[jm813]

Keep doing porn, whores. You'll end up like him