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[runningdownthatdream]

IDK what other thread you are talkin about..but I actually agree with you regarding Trish post. I tend to hold her to a higher standard due to in large part her intelligent and seemingly well thought out responses, and because she's not all over every single thread just because she is one of the girls.
However..with that being said. I was still taken back with her initial reaction here which somewhat implied a blame the victim simply because the "perp" was a trans

I don't think its about blaming the victim so much as it's about 'buyer beware' which is an edict we should follow whenever there is an exchange of goods. What I - and others - are taking issue with is the stupid post which more less says 'Beware Tranny'. The chaser got burned and is trying to flip the script and make the situation about 'Trannys' instead of about his own stupidity. Kinda like the idiots who fall for the Nigerian scam: if those people weren't greedy and trying to make huge profit from little expenditure they wouldn't have been scammed! I don't blame the scammer in that case - he's only trying his hustle.

[trish]

And yet we hear countless stories where girls have stolen directly or through escorting transactions..etc. It obviously doesn't make all girls thieves but one can certainly empathize with why the OP feels the way he feels right now

Empathize, yes. Justify, no. There is no warrant to the claim that thievery is the norm among transsexuals and no warrant for not being open, honest and forthcoming in all of one's relationships including those with transsexuals (which doesn't mean you have to share your home with anyone who invites themselves to move in).

[btmmale4toptg]

Norm
noun
1. Something that is usual, typical or standard.
2. A standard or pattern, esp. of social behavior that is typical or expected of a group.

This based on what? This anecdotal story which may not even be true? Other stories you have heard that support this belief? Your own vast experience? Is that experience sufficiently extensive to distinguish the behaviors of transsexuals from women, or from men, or from people in general with regards to thievery?

Trish,

First of all, I never said ALL Transsexuals were thieves, in fact, I never even said the word in any of my postings on the topic. Someone else said "thieves". The OP CL posting I believe is true, and yes, in that case she sole from a guy who sounded like he tried to help her.

I base my opinion on my own personal experiences and from exclusively dating trans women for 20+ years, basically my entire adult life. I never said ALL trans women were like this either, There are good girls out there and I'm sure you are one of them, unfortunately, there are more who just use men for whatever they can get than not. If my opinion and experience counts for nothing with you, than so be it.

My point was to say:

1. This is more typical behavior than not
2. This is why guys don't trust trans women.

I do have compassion about how hard it is in the world for most trans women. Nor am I bashing trans women. However, this is a common problem within the trans community and if you disagree with that, then you are looking at the worlld with your eyes closed.

[trish]

... this is a common problem within the trans community and if you disagree with that, then you are looking at the worlld with your eyes closed.

Or perhaps I'm looking at a superset of the sample of transwomen whom you have "dated".

How does one even get to the point where he has "dated" transwomen exclusively for the last score years? Surely they aren't chance encounters; and if not chance encounters, then your sample isn't random and your conclusions are drawn from a sample with a built in bias. I'm not saying your eyes are closed, but that your experience is from a POV that may not allow such a broad generalization as "this (thievery) is more typical behavior(among transwomen) then not."

[btmmale4toptg]

Or perhaps I'm looking at a superset of the sample of transwomen whom you have "dated".

How does one even get to the point where he has "dated" transwomen exclusively for the last score years? Surely they aren't chance encounters; and if not chance encounters, then your sample isn't random and your conclusions are drawn from a sample with a built in bias. I'm not saying your eyes are closed, but that your experience is from a POV that may not allow such a broad generalization as "this (thievery) is more typical behavior(among transwomen) then not."

Trish,

My POV is shared by many men who date trans women...and when I say date, I don't mean use escorting services either.

Again, I never said in ANY of MY generalizations that most trans women are thieves.

How does one get to the point of dating trans women exclusively?

Let me ask you then, how does one get to the point of dating women exclusively?

men exclusively?

It's just the way it is and what is right for me, always has been and always will be.

Do you question a straight man or gay men how they "even get to the point where he has "dated" ??? exclusively for the last score years?" That's just silly to even question.

[BigBlackMan]

You can't trust women like bella

[trish]

...Again, I never said in ANY of MY generalizations that most trans women are thieves.

Read your own post #33, I quote

Trish...no offense, I wish I could say this was just one bad apple, unfortunately its more the norm than the exception.

Odd, but I never seem to meet transwomen at market, in the library or at the hardware store. Well maybe I have, but we’re both just too busy with our lives as women to go around introducing ourselves to strangers as transwomen. Unless we’re capitalizing on our somewhat unique situation (emphasis on capital), we really don’t want people to distinguish us, or even be able to easily distinguish us, from other women. So given that most of us are passing undercover (so to speak), just how are you finding all these transwomen that you’ve been “dating” for the last twenty years? Have you access to a plastic surgeon’s patient list? Perhaps you are a doctor who specializes in transitioning therapies and you “date” your patients. Or maybe you search Craigslist and escort sites for potential “dating” material. Perhaps you habituate specialty clubs and bars cruising for transgender “dates”. Forget why you would have been doing any of this for the last twenty years, and simply consider that it just may be the case that the larger portion of transwomen have ordinary, run of the mill jobs and lives and simply can’t be found by the methods you employ to ferret out transgender women from the rest. If for example, you’ve drawn largely from the pool of transsexual escorts, then your sample skews toward women who’s profession is to make money by exploiting the male libido while maintaining a safe emotional distance from their client. Look, if I was trying to find my life-mate on LonelyNoMore.com and all my LonelyNoMore dates were either thieves, addicts or losers, I wouldn’t conclude that it's the more toward the norm for men to thieves, addicts or losers than toward the exception. My first inclination would be to hypothesize that the pool of men available at LonelyNoMore was skewed toward thieves, addicts and losers. Whatever your method, it’s inherently biased.

Here’s my advice. If you want a serious relationship with a woman, just engage the women that you chance to meet with forthrightness and honesty. Don’t rush things. Make friends and see where things lead.

Must the woman you love have to have a dick? Must they be pre-op? Or post-op? Have big tits with puffy pink areolae? Or sport a dragon tattoo? If you answered “yes” to any of these questions, you may not be looking for a relationship, you may simply be seeking to satisfy a fetish. And no, this is not at all analogous to gays seeking gays, lesbians seeking lesbians or men and women seeking each other. Transgender is not a sexual orientation. Now don’t get me wrong; it’s actually a lot of fun to be the object of a man’s fetish and give him the fantasy night or the fantasy week of his wettest dreams. But no mentally healthy man or woman would regard that as the focus of a meaningful relationship. If the woman you fall in love with happens to be a transsexual and you accept her as a woman, then she’s lucky. But if the woman you fall in love with was deliberately chosen to be transwoman, then I wouldn’t be surprised if things eventually unravel for the two of you, as they apparently have done over and over again for twenty years.

[pimpdog]

If you act like a TRICK, how you gonna cry when somebody gets over on you? dudes want one thing, and cry when the girls want one thing too, its a two way street.

[pimpdog]

Shit, alot of GG prostitutes will do ALOT worse then steal from you, they will set you up for there pimp to tie your ass up, and take more then money.

[Foggy]

When my dick starts earning me money, I'll let it do my thinking for me.

Until then...