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[Ben in LA]

So what does one use AppleTV for if not for Netflix, Hulu, and the Trailers App? Those are the only three that I use and I haven't even explored any of the others. I just ignore them. What else is good, useful, entertaining, and worth checking out?

AirPlay...and HBOGo. Also the media I purchased via iTunes. Also the NBA, MLB, and NHL apps.

All I know is that they'd better add some more with the upcoming update!

[GroobyKrissy]

AirPlay...and HBOGo. Also the media I purchased via iTunes. Also the NBA, MLB, and NHL apps.

All I know is that they'd better add some more with the upcoming update!

Ah... AirPlay... I use that sometimes too although for some reason, it is super slow... and I have a fast wireless (AC) connection!

Seems like Apple is kind of abandoning Apple TV I think... The rumor mills are swirling with the company releasing an actual TV... something along the lines of the GoogleTV / Sony relationship.

[Ben in LA]

Ah... AirPlay... I use that sometimes too although for some reason, it is super slow... and I have a fast wireless (AC) connection!

Seems like Apple is kind of abandoning Apple TV I think... The rumor mills are swirling with the company releasing an actual TV... something along the lines of the GoogleTV / Sony relationship.

We'll see soon enough...

[NightmareX0666]

Ah... AirPlay... I use that sometimes too although for some reason, it is super slow... and I have a fast wireless (AC) connection!

Seems like Apple is kind of abandoning Apple TV I think... The rumor mills are swirling with the company releasing an actual TV... something along the lines of the GoogleTV / Sony relationship.

From what I have read they are actually might be making the AppleTV into more of a game console.

Here is one of the news articles about it:

Why an Apple TV game console is a no-brainer

How can Apple make a splash in 2013? By unleashing the Apple TV to play games. It's easier and far more effective than you'd think.

by Scott Stein

| August 9, 2013 7:59 PM PDT


For almost as long as there's been a rumor of a next-gen Apple TV, there's been a rumor of an Apple game console. In a year where Apple's product portfolio has been conservative -- to be kind -- it feels like new products, like the fabled iWatch, might be sliding off toward 2014.

So what, if anything, could Apple surprise with? Of all the new products Apple could release this fall, a revamped Apple TV/game console would be the easiest to make...and could deliver a huge unexpected disruption to the upcoming next-gen game consoles from Sony and Microsoft. With a possible Amazon game console and maybe even a Google one rumored to be on the horizon, maybe it's time Apple flexed its gaming muscle a little.

I'm not talking about an actual TV with Apple hardware: I'm talking about a next-generation Apple TV box. Take the existing $99 black puck that's already out there, add an upgraded A6 or A6X processor, and onboard storage, at least 16GB and hopefully higher. Maybe the hike up the price to $199. But here are five reasons why an Apple TV with gaming would be a great move for Apple right now.

MFi game controllers will be here soon
iOS 7's allowance for official stick-and-button game controllers is a big deal. At the very least, it means that iPhones, iPods, iPads, and the Apple TV using AirPlay could gain controller support using existing hardware.

Imagining the next Apple TV having direct game controller support without a mediating iPhone or iPad isn't a stretch at all. The existing Apple TV remote is limited; a revamped remote with controller elements could make Apple TV feel a lot different.

A lack of proper game control hampers port-over games on iOS. Fix that, and who knows what types of games could suddenly get made for the App Store. Imagine if EA suddenly debuted a full-blown version of Madden, or if Activision showed a new Call of Duty. These games have existed in control-hobbled or dumbed-down forms on iOS, but better graphics and controller support could get iOS gaming to turn the corner from casual content to deeper, more-advanced experiences. As graphics performance keeps improving, there's no reason why this couldn't happen.

Apple has tons of game developers already on the App Store
From big players like EA and Capcom to tiny one-person auteur operations, nobody in the entire gaming business has as diverse a portfolio of developer talent on a single platform as Apple. I'd think that would matter just a bit to developers once a gaming-ready Apple TV comes around. The potential for profit via the App Store has already been well-proven, especially over Android.

Apple could even sweeten the deal by allowing Apple TV games to be cross-compatible on iPads and iPhones, expanding the installed platform to millions right off the bat. Imagine a universal version of Skyrim that could track progress and sync across an iPad, iPhone, or Apple TV for true play-anywhere gaming.

An aggressive price and cheap games could undo other console players
The Nintendo Wii caught fire, in part, because it was less expensive than the competition. A cheaper Apple TV game box could undercut the Xbox One and PS4. Sure, it would be a completely different experience, but depending on what games it had, a lot of families might prefer an Apple TV game system. Keep in mind: with the Wii U at $350, PS4 at $400, Xbox One at $500, and current PS3 and Xbox 360 systems around $300, an updated Apple TV at $199 or less would immediately be a go-to choice for price-sensitive shoppers.

Second-screen gaming's already part of the equation
AirPlay gaming on Apple TV -- albeit in a limited capacity -- is already possible via iPads, iPhones, and iPods. Meanwhile, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are all exploring second screens via the Vita, tablets (Smart Glass), and the Wii U GamePad, respectively. Apple's iOS device second-screen strategy could expand on a new game platform, enabling multiplayer games and more-elaborate experiences. The pieces are already in place.

Still plenty to offer for nongamers
The PS4 and Xbox One have a lot of great entertainment features, but they're game consoles first. The Apple TV has slowly but steadily added a number of video apps and services, plus it's very good at serving up iTunes content and being a wireless hub for iPhones, iPads, iPod Touches, and Macs.

All we need now is for Apple to announce a new Apple TV this fall. And, I don't think that's so far-fetched at all.

Senior Associate Editor Matthew Moskovciak contributed to this story.


http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31747_7...-a-no-brainer/

[MacShreach]

Hey Krissy, congrats, hope it all goes well xxx

[GroobyKrissy]

From what I have read they are actually might be making the AppleTV into more of a game console.

Here is one of the news articles about it:

Why an Apple TV game console is a no-brainer

How can Apple make a splash in 2013? By unleashing the Apple TV to play games. It's easier and far more effective than you'd think.

by Scott Stein

| August 9, 2013 7:59 PM PDT


For almost as long as there's been a rumor of a next-gen Apple TV, there's been a rumor of an Apple game console. In a year where Apple's product portfolio has been conservative -- to be kind -- it feels like new products, like the fabled iWatch, might be sliding off toward 2014.

So what, if anything, could Apple surprise with? Of all the new products Apple could release this fall, a revamped Apple TV/game console would be the easiest to make...and could deliver a huge unexpected disruption to the upcoming next-gen game consoles from Sony and Microsoft. With a possible Amazon game console and maybe even a Google one rumored to be on the horizon, maybe it's time Apple flexed its gaming muscle a little.

I'm not talking about an actual TV with Apple hardware: I'm talking about a next-generation Apple TV box. Take the existing $99 black puck that's already out there, add an upgraded A6 or A6X processor, and onboard storage, at least 16GB and hopefully higher. Maybe the hike up the price to $199. But here are five reasons why an Apple TV with gaming would be a great move for Apple right now.

MFi game controllers will be here soon
iOS 7's allowance for official stick-and-button game controllers is a big deal. At the very least, it means that iPhones, iPods, iPads, and the Apple TV using AirPlay could gain controller support using existing hardware.

Imagining the next Apple TV having direct game controller support without a mediating iPhone or iPad isn't a stretch at all. The existing Apple TV remote is limited; a revamped remote with controller elements could make Apple TV feel a lot different.

A lack of proper game control hampers port-over games on iOS. Fix that, and who knows what types of games could suddenly get made for the App Store. Imagine if EA suddenly debuted a full-blown version of Madden, or if Activision showed a new Call of Duty. These games have existed in control-hobbled or dumbed-down forms on iOS, but better graphics and controller support could get iOS gaming to turn the corner from casual content to deeper, more-advanced experiences. As graphics performance keeps improving, there's no reason why this couldn't happen.

Apple has tons of game developers already on the App Store
From big players like EA and Capcom to tiny one-person auteur operations, nobody in the entire gaming business has as diverse a portfolio of developer talent on a single platform as Apple. I'd think that would matter just a bit to developers once a gaming-ready Apple TV comes around. The potential for profit via the App Store has already been well-proven, especially over Android.

Apple could even sweeten the deal by allowing Apple TV games to be cross-compatible on iPads and iPhones, expanding the installed platform to millions right off the bat. Imagine a universal version of Skyrim that could track progress and sync across an iPad, iPhone, or Apple TV for true play-anywhere gaming.

An aggressive price and cheap games could undo other console players
The Nintendo Wii caught fire, in part, because it was less expensive than the competition. A cheaper Apple TV game box could undercut the Xbox One and PS4. Sure, it would be a completely different experience, but depending on what games it had, a lot of families might prefer an Apple TV game system. Keep in mind: with the Wii U at $350, PS4 at $400, Xbox One at $500, and current PS3 and Xbox 360 systems around $300, an updated Apple TV at $199 or less would immediately be a go-to choice for price-sensitive shoppers.

Second-screen gaming's already part of the equation
AirPlay gaming on Apple TV -- albeit in a limited capacity -- is already possible via iPads, iPhones, and iPods. Meanwhile, Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo are all exploring second screens via the Vita, tablets (Smart Glass), and the Wii U GamePad, respectively. Apple's iOS device second-screen strategy could expand on a new game platform, enabling multiplayer games and more-elaborate experiences. The pieces are already in place.

Still plenty to offer for nongamers
The PS4 and Xbox One have a lot of great entertainment features, but they're game consoles first. The Apple TV has slowly but steadily added a number of video apps and services, plus it's very good at serving up iTunes content and being a wireless hub for iPhones, iPads, iPod Touches, and Macs.

All we need now is for Apple to announce a new Apple TV this fall. And, I don't think that's so far-fetched at all.

Senior Associate Editor Matthew Moskovciak contributed to this story.


http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-31747_7...-a-no-brainer/

The death of Apple if this happens.

[GroobyKrissy]

Hey Krissy, congrats, hope it all goes well xxx

Merci Mon Amie

[DonnyG]

Let me ask you a question...I'm a Dr...can I get a free subscription for my waiting room? I get Time and People, but those are so boring.

Really Prod Really? You fucking nut job.......LOL

[Ben in LA]

All of this Apple TV talk just reminded me to update the damn thing.

As for the magazine, nysprod, that's not a bad idea. Waiting rooms have too much boring material!

[GroobyKrissy]

Hiya All

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