LGBT lost in TRANSlation?

[BellaBellucci]

Aha, that's what I was asking in my first question. This is an internal debate is it? Excuuuuse the hell out of me.

You're asking baiting questions and using red herrings. I'm done. Best of luck figuring out your sexuality.

~BB~

[Remy757Photog]

*SMH* at some of these guys trying to argue about transsexuality with transsexuals.

*SMH* at the guys who secretly hope the former guys win their arguments so that they can feel less gay about getting fucked by that CD last week... as well as their lust for more. #youstillgay

~BB~

lol I've been wondering how a Femboi thread could be so popular let alone exist on a transsexual porn forum. I guess for some guys into transwomen they really do have an anything goes mentality. To each their own, I reckon. Maybe the forum should just be called HungPeople lol. We can start twink threads, Bear threads, buff guys threads, buff female threads, whatever floats your boat it's like 31 flavors here, never mind the transsexuals over there. lol I jest

[broncofan]

It is cute that you two make losing arguments and then quote each other and give the thumbs up periodically. The number of ad hominem attacks sort of gives the impression that you'd like to win the argument with insults rather than logic.

If someone contradicts themselves I don't really see how it's the gotcha game to point it out. Of course, you're probably better off discouraging discussion by arguing that those who disagree with you are doing so because of their sexuality and not because they think your arguments are crude.

[BellaBellucci]

It is cute that you two make losing arguments and then quote each other and give the thumbs up periodically. The number of ad hominem attacks sort of gives the impression that you'd like to win the argument with insults rather than logic.

If someone contradicts themselves I don't really see how it's the gotcha game to point it out. Of course, you're probably better off discouraging discussion by arguing that those who disagree with you are doing so because of their sexuality and not because they think your arguments are crude.

Yes, of course. You have it all figured out. #brilliant #goyou

~BB~

[robertlouis]

lol I've been wondering how a Femboi thread could be so popular let alone exist on a transsexual porn forum. I guess for some guys into transwomen they really do have an anything goes mentality. To each their own, I reckon. Maybe the forum should just be called HungPeople lol. We can start twink threads, Bear threads, buff guys threads, buff female threads, whatever floats your boat it's like 31 flavors here, never mind the transsexuals over there. lol I jest

Don't Remy, please. We're going to be swamped by twinks and bears!

Unless of course that would be showing solidarity with the general flow of LGBT politics with the emphasis on the L and G lol.

[GroobyKrissy]

Pacific Rim was great! Go see it. I've only got a little while before dinner and The Wolverine but...

I will respond to those who have quoted me with the exception of course, to Bella directly, because she is a whole different kind of crazy that makes no sense at all. ALL (and I mean ALL) her points are easily dispelled and easily proven as either illogical, false, circular, or more to the point... just plain crazy.

If ANYONE else sees any sort of merit in something she has said, quote it to me, ask a question and I'll respond in kind.

All I ask is this if you engage with me... be intellectually honest, actually honest, answer questions that are posed to you, don't deflect topics, read what I've written, and I shall do the same... agreed?

Individual counterpoints coming shortly.

[BellaBellucci]

I will respond to those who have quoted me with the exception of course, to Bella directly, because she is a whole different kind of crazy that makes no sense at all. ALL (and I mean ALL) her points are easily dispelled and easily proven as either illogical, false, circular, or more to the point... just plain crazy.

~BB~

[GroobyKrissy]

First of all i never said that beeing LGBis a behavior that can be changed because i firmly believe that some is a born that way the same way as a transgenderd person is.And i dont feel that i am in any way superior to someone that is lgb i am just saying that it is completly different thing from beeing transgender and i my view a transgender woman that is straight doesnt belong in the catagory but a transgender that indentifies as bi or lesbian does.And for you other point in your other post about that the lgb community does care about T rights have a look at this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Employm...rimination_Act they will drop as like a brik if they dont need us, apperntly it is oke to discrimnate against T who are looking for a job.

First of all, people must take responsibility for the things that they say AND the LOGICAL conclusions that can be drawn from them. Can we agree on that?

This is what you said (bold mine) [SIC]:

"I would say that the problem is more that people get grouped into groups where they dont belong.gay/lesbian/bi is about who you are atracted to completely different from someone that is a ts who is born in the wrong body..."

In fact, what you have stated there is that being LGB is "...about who you are attracted to" and is "completely different from someone who is a TS".

So, you did say it...? How am I possibly misreading that? The LOGICAL implication from that statement is to say that LGB people are CHOOSING ("attraction" is a behavior and can be changed) to be LGB... that is a mistake and ultimately defeats your own argument, and I explained why.

You cannot judge a person's BEHAVIOR but then declare it unfair and not listen when someone with conservative views judges YOUR BEHAVIOR in the same way, without being completely hypocritical. That is why you must start an argument for equality and acceptance without bias... that is to say, HUMANS should be treated equally... with respect, dignity, and etc. If you start from a place of bias, you will end your own argument.

I am not arguing that CD/TV is the EQUIVALENT of TS. I never have and I never will. I am arguing that the distaste shown by the TS community towards those individuals BASED ON A CERTAIN BEHAVIOR that they dislike ultimately weakens and defeats their arguments. Besides making them look like utter hypocrites which OF COURSE the LGB community is going to steer away from. It is just smart of them to recognize the division and sidestep the issue because they can actually make progress without people pointing to the "T" and laughing their asses off.

[GroobyKrissy]

Yeah. I'll admit I am prejudice against drag queens. I don't know why, but I think they're loud, annoying, obnoxious, and not even funny. I don't get the concept of dressing up like a clown and making a mockery of an entire community. They smear their lipstick, they cake their face. It looks ridiculous, and stupid. It could be because I don't drink. Maybe you have to be shit faced to get the humor (if there is any). Personally, I find their humor quite offensive.

As far as CD's go. I'll never understand the fetish of dressing up. I wear panties everyday and don't get a hard on.

And that is fine. You admit you have a bias and judge people negatively based on looks, mannerisms, and etc... even when they're doing it on purpose (that's what a Drag Queen does). You don't have to like it, and I myself don't love going to Drag shows... in fact, I can't remember the last time I went to one.

As for your last comments. Can I just ask you this...

Why does it bother you (to the point that you feel you have to even mention it, negatively, in this context) WHAT someone's particular fetish is or how hard they get wearing panties?

This is the "hatred", although in this case, somewhat veiled, that the TS community has towards the CD/TV community. It MUST be brought up in EVERY SINGLE discussion. They MUST be ridiculed in EVERY SINGLE discussion. If you can't make your point your last resort is to just call the person an "UGLY CROSSDRESSER"... and then watch the other people pile on...

[nysprod]

Wow...L's and G's don't like T's...T's don't like CD/TV's...sad.