way to go racists

[nysprod]

The real problem is that Amber is upset that a black man isn't interested in black women, and demands for him to change sexual preferences.

There you go again with your stupid shit...you just can't help herself. Fuckin' virgin fanboi.

[GroobyKrissy]

ask her: "why do you need to see my id?"

Did just that and she said it was "store policy" despite the fact that I had just watched her run transactions for all the people in front of me without asking anyone else for an ID.

I voted with my dollar and left after pointing this out to her. A few people applauded when I left and a couple put their stuff down right there in the line and walked out behind me. I also later wrote a letter to the managers of the attraction but haven't heard back.

It was an interesting incident and one that I think highlights that racism does exist. I think how you choose to deal with it says a lot about whether it will continue to exist or be stamped out.

[EZWind]

I like Amber - but she can give as good as can take, both on intellectual topics as well as snipes and bites.

...having been on the receiving end of those snipes and bites, just thought I'd share this: I posted a reply to a topic once in which I made a totally innocent and innocuous comment referencing a reply she had made to that same topic and which she obviously took entirely the wrong way and she jumped on me with both feet. I apologized for the misunderstanding (twice as it turned out) explaining how I meant no disrespect. And even while accepting the apologies (sort of) she was still adding little digs and jabs. This went back and forth there, to the extent where now the thread is all about Amber and not the original topic. It was at this point I decided well, the best thing for me to do is just ignore this person.

... However, I'm not going to sanitize this forum - or any part of my company - into a overtly politically correct forum just to appease a few people who might have had their noses rubbed the wrong way.
You made a big exit statement - so either stick with your principles and keep out - or come back and participate. I don't care either way,

Right on, Chief...I'm with ya 100% on that score. Who is she, Brett Favre or what?

[EZWind]

I voted with my dollar and left after pointing this out to her. A few people applauded when I left and a couple put their stuff down right there in the line and walked out behind me.

...way to go Krissy....had I been there I would have been one o those walker outers with ya. That cashier and the company suits who refused to reply to your letter...instant Karma gonna get them

[Amy Gray]

What should I have done?

As if it isn't obvious.

[Bopper007]

Did just that and she said it was "store policy" despite the fact that I had just watched her run transactions for all the people in front of me without asking anyone else for an ID.

I voted with my dollar and left after pointing this out to her. A few people applauded when I left and a couple put their stuff down right there in the line and walked out behind me. I also later wrote a letter to the managers of the attraction but haven't heard back.

It was an interesting incident and one that I think highlights that racism does exist. I think how you choose to deal with it says a lot about whether it will continue to exist or be stamped out.

Excellent response Krissy. That's what I believe in. The American way is to vote with your dollar. If a business has treated me wrong, they no longer get my business.

[ImpulZ]

which amber we talk about?

[Yvonne183]

I am also leaving this forum,, wait a minute,, I already left forget what I said then,, hell, maybe this is better, I came back to say that I am leaving the forum, where in about a year I will come back again and say I am leaving again.

Amber,, I kinda like you, you are firm on what you believe, this is a good thing. You are not afraid to make a stand in what you believe, you even stood up to my ideas, didn't change my mind any but you had your views and stuck to them. If you leave the forum, do so for other reasons, like for me the forum is boring as hell, that's why I left, same old garbage churning out day after day. Don't leave cause there are idiots here, do like you did in past posts, stand up and defend your ideals.

Of note, I dislike most of what Natina says but would never have banned her cause some lonely old fart member of this forum made a sissy rant against her, he should be a man and stop whining.

Bye,, see ya'll next year,,,, maybe? Maybe not,, I think I'll be dead, lol.

[TSPornFan]

Right on, Chief...I'm with ya 100% on that score. Who is she, Brett Favre or what?

Hey there watch it! Brett Favre is a living God!

[robertlouis]

Okay, on a serious note, I have met Amber a couple times in person and I've always had a deep respect for her as performer but more importantly as a person. I also know that racism is one issue she has no tolerance for, it's one of the things I respect her for. In light of some of the past threads I can't say I'm surprised to see her go but I'm definitely saddened. Still, I wish her the absolute best with her schooling.

I think what bothers me so much is that some of the recent racism that has cropped up is that it's very much out of line with the type of business Steven runs. I have never gotten any sense from Steven or his businesses of anything less than complete tolerance and respect for people no matter their race, orientation, or what junk they're packing. I guess that's why this bigotry toward performers of color is so saddening. It's precisely because it's so alien to the spirit of this space that it winds up tarnishing this forum with it's presence.

I understand how hard it can be navigating the fine line between creating a space where people feel they can discuss topics freely and maintaining an environment where people are civil and respectful of each other. Unfortunately those two spaces rarely coincide and you just can't force class on ignorant people.

I guess my opinion isn't worth so much as a relative outsider but I wanted to thank Seanchai for taking this topic so seriously. I just hope that certain posters can learn to grow the fuck up and start acting like mature adults.

Terrific post Amy. The saddest aspect is that some of the posters hereabouts can't see or think beyond the end of their own egocentric dicks. How they deal with women, gg or trans, in the real world is a complete mystery to me. It goes beyond racism into sheer misogyny.