Could you have a relationship with a TS?

[KelliBlueEyes]

a ts or a guy or girl could do escorting. and they all do, from all races and all backgrounds. but they still date.

here you have married men escorting themselves out to GOP goers. and if you read the article, the women have had no rise in business! what irony. if i had money like that, i am eating a girl's ass right there and then as soon as the political blah blah shindig wraps up for the evening.

http://nypost.com/2016/07/21/male-es...ey-at-the-rnc/

now according to that article, are men undateable as in having a relationship?

escorting is simply providing a service to someone, one that religious society frowns upon but it's really no different than running a laundry place or a chinese takeout. so yes, of course you can date a ts and obviously they do. it's funny because if you sell cow meat, hindus see you as sacrilegious just as the abrahamic religions see you as sacrilegious for agreeing to providing sexual pleasure in exchange for money. amazing how powerful religion is for people. and we live in such an advanced world today. wow.

so yes, you can have a relationship as long as you are openly honest with each other. no childish jealousies and making sure both people have some level of independence. this is not easy to do but if you really look at any relationship between two lovers in life, they don't have it easy either. everyone has to manage it day to day. we all do the best we can.

also, i know fucking feels good but if you have a connection of some sort, the sex is better. when you suck her dick or she cums in your mouth, that is your lover doing so. it's a different mental satisfaction if you have at least some sort of relationship than simple raw animal fucking (that's awesome too of course).

The reason guys say they can't have relationships with escorts or former escorts is because of their own hangups and not because of the sex worker. Yes a certain percent of people who work in that industry Are damaged, just like people who do not work in that industry are damaged. And there is a prevalence of drug and alcohol abuse among people who work in the sex industry, which is also a complicating factor for relationships.

I've had relationships with strippers and former strippers, some of whom also worked as escorts. And I've been in relationships myself, and I'm an escort.

The guys who are trans attracted need to be realists. Transition is expensive, there is discrimination in hiring against trans people. unless someone transitions at an older age, and has had a successful career of their own, or comes from family money, and has support from their family, then they likely cannot afford all the bells and whistle's involved with a pretty girl's transition.

Do you want to date a girl who looks like a guy, or do you want to date a girl with FFS, implants, etc, etc? Guys want to date someone who is young, and pretty, and trans. But how do you expect them to get the money to look like that? Unless you are successful, and willing to pay for your girlfriends transition. It's likely you would not be attracted to her in The first place if she was not somewhat further along in her transition than day one.

It's just so frustrating and laughable, guys don't want to date an escort, but they expect her to have the money to pay for her own transition. Where do you think you're going to find these girls? How do you think the girls who work in porn made the money to look the way they look?

I think that guys who say they would never consider dating an escort are being completely unrealistic if they would actually like to date a trans girl. Believe me I know plenty of trans women, and not all of us have worked as an escort. Not all of us are pretty either. Most of the pretty ones I have Either worked in the sex industry or found a rich daddy who paid for their transition.

Some guys say they would just like to find some one naturally feminine. Girls like that are out there. I was fortunate enough to have more naturally feminine aspects then a lot of trans women do. Can you imagine how much competition there is between trans attracted men for these beauties? Those kind of girls always find a rich daddy.

I certainly have no issue with guys who keep their attraction to trans women as a fantasy, through porn, or escorts, or whatever the case may be. The thing that makes me shake my head is that, I'm on some trans specific dating websites, and most guys, whether they state it or not, are looking for pretty, "passable", trans women. We are hard enough to find as it is, that's why they call us unicorns. Once you start adding conditions like, oh, she can't ever have been an escort, now you're looking for the rarest of the rare. Now you need to be very attractive, financially and emotionally secure, etc, etc.

The bottom line is there are far more trans attracted men then there are beautiful trans women. If you narrow your criteria for potential trans girlfriends even further by excluding escorts and former escorts, then you should, like one of the posters in this thread already mentioned, come to terms with the fact that you will never find one.

[MrFanti]

The reason guys say they can't have relationships with escorts or former escorts is because of their own hangups and not because of the sex worker. Yes a certain percent of people who work in that industry Are damaged, just like people who do not work in that industry are damaged. And there is a prevalence of drug and alcohol abuse among people who work in the sex industry, which is also a complicating factor for relationships.

I've had relationships with strippers and former strippers, some of whom also worked as escorts. And I've been in relationships myself, and I'm an escort.

The guys who are trans attracted need to be realists. Transition is expensive, there is discrimination in hiring against trans people. unless someone transitions at an older age, and has had a successful career of their own, or comes from family money, and has support from their family, then they likely cannot afford all the bells and whistle's involved with a pretty girl's transition.

Do you want to date a girl who looks like a guy, or do you want to date a girl with FFS, implants, etc, etc? Guys want to date someone who is young, and pretty, and trans. But how do you expect them to get the money to look like that? Unless you are successful, and willing to pay for your girlfriends transition. It's likely you would not be attracted to her in The first place if she was not somewhat further along in her transition than day one.

It's just so frustrating and laughable, guys don't want to date an escort, but they expect her to have the money to pay for her own transition. Where do you think you're going to find these girls? How do you think the girls who work in porn made the money to look the way they look?

I think that guys who say they would never consider dating an escort are being completely unrealistic if they would actually like to date a trans girl. Believe me I know plenty of trans women, and not all of us have worked as an escort. Not all of us are pretty either. Most of the pretty ones I have Either worked in the sex industry or found a rich daddy who paid for their transition.

Some guys say they would just like to find some one naturally feminine. Girls like that are out there. I was fortunate enough to have more naturally feminine aspects then a lot of trans women do. Can you imagine how much competition there is between trans attracted men for these beauties? Those kind of girls always find a rich daddy.

I certainly have no issue with guys who keep their attraction to trans women as a fantasy, through porn, or escorts, or whatever the case may be. The thing that makes me shake my head is that, I'm on some trans specific dating websites, and most guys, whether they state it or not, are looking for pretty, "passable", trans women. We are hard enough to find as it is, that's why they call us unicorns. Once you start adding conditions like, oh, she can't ever have been an escort, now you're looking for the rarest of the rare. Now you need to be very attractive, financially and emotionally secure, etc, etc.

The bottom line is there are far more trans attracted men then there are beautiful trans women. If you narrow your criteria for potential trans girlfriends even further by excluding escorts and former escorts, then you should, like one of the posters in this thread already mentioned, come to terms with the fact that you will never find one.

Overall, some excellent points. Some things, I totally agree with, others I would debate exist in that gray area of non-absolutes. On an overall positive note for transgender women, I know of at least 2 transgender women whom are not in the limelight - but yet have 'white collar' jobs and most importantly, are known to be transgender women by their co-workers in a diverse and positive environment.

[kmersh]

The reason guys say they can't have relationships with escorts or former escorts is because of their own hangups and not because of the sex worker. Yes a certain percent of people who work in that industry Are damaged, just like people who do not work in that industry are damaged. And there is a prevalence of drug and alcohol abuse among people who work in the sex industry, which is also a complicating factor for relationships.

I've had relationships with strippers and former strippers, some of whom also worked as escorts. And I've been in relationships myself, and I'm an escort.

The guys who are trans attracted need to be realists. Transition is expensive, there is discrimination in hiring against trans people. unless someone transitions at an older age, and has had a successful career of their own, or comes from family money, and has support from their family, then they likely cannot afford all the bells and whistle's involved with a pretty girl's transition.

Do you want to date a girl who looks like a guy, or do you want to date a girl with FFS, implants, etc, etc? Guys want to date someone who is young, and pretty, and trans. But how do you expect them to get the money to look like that? Unless you are successful, and willing to pay for your girlfriends transition. It's likely you would not be attracted to her in The first place if she was not somewhat further along in her transition than day one.

It's just so frustrating and laughable, guys don't want to date an escort, but they expect her to have the money to pay for her own transition. Where do you think you're going to find these girls? How do you think the girls who work in porn made the money to look the way they look?

I think that guys who say they would never consider dating an escort are being completely unrealistic if they would actually like to date a trans girl. Believe me I know plenty of trans women, and not all of us have worked as an escort. Not all of us are pretty either. Most of the pretty ones I have Either worked in the sex industry or found a rich daddy who paid for their transition.

Some guys say they would just like to find some one naturally feminine. Girls like that are out there. I was fortunate enough to have more naturally feminine aspects then a lot of trans women do. Can you imagine how much competition there is between trans attracted men for these beauties? Those kind of girls always find a rich daddy.

I certainly have no issue with guys who keep their attraction to trans women as a fantasy, through porn, or escorts, or whatever the case may be. The thing that makes me shake my head is that, I'm on some trans specific dating websites, and most guys, whether they state it or not, are looking for pretty, "passable", trans women. We are hard enough to find as it is, that's why they call us unicorns. Once you start adding conditions like, oh, she can't ever have been an escort, now you're looking for the rarest of the rare. Now you need to be very attractive, financially and emotionally secure, etc, etc.

The bottom line is there are far more trans attracted men then there are beautiful trans women. If you narrow your criteria for potential trans girlfriends even further by excluding escorts and former escorts, then you should, like one of the posters in this thread already mentioned, come to terms with the fact that you will never find one.

To be upfront, I realize that I am asking personal questions and by no means do I expect you to answer, but I am honestly curious as I do not mind the vocation, stripper, escort, etc. and I do believe one can date such a person, but the meeting has to occur in their non-sex industry life.

Fair and valid. My question is as follows, would you consider having a meaningful relationship with a client?

The strippers that you dated, did you meet them in their vocation as stripper (stage name and all) or did you meet them at a regular non-strip bar or on the street, etc. basically in their every day normal lives?

You say that you are an escort and have been in relationships, were those relationships with clients or partners that you met outside of being escort, but you dated while working as a escort?

Personally speaking (if I were single), I would have no issue meeting a woman (genetic or trans) who was/is an escort as long as I met her in her non-escort role, essentially in her every day life.

IMHO to meet the person as their escort persona, I could end up a "daddy" something I have no interest in being and not an equal part of the relationship.

[KelliBlueEyes]

To be upfront, I realize that I am asking personal questions and by no means do I expect you to answer, but I am honestly curious as I do not mind the vocation, stripper, escort, etc. and I do believe one can date such a person, but the meeting has to occur in their non-sex industry life.

Fair and valid. My question is as follows, would you consider having a meaningful relationship with a client?

The strippers that you dated, did you meet them in their vocation as stripper (stage name and all) or did you meet them at a regular non-strip bar or on the street, etc. basically in their every day normal lives?

You say that you are an escort and have been in relationships, were those relationships with clients or partners that you met outside of being escort, but you dated while working as a escort?

Personally speaking (if I were single), I would have no issue meeting a woman (genetic or trans) who was/is an escort as long as I met her in her non-escort role, essentially in her every day life.

IMHO to meet the person as their escort persona, I could end up a "daddy" something I have no interest in being and not an equal part of the relationship.

To (probably incompletely) answer your questions: The strippers I dated I met somewhere other than their workplace, the guys I've dated met me when I was not working.
I've never given any serious thought to the question of whether or not I would consider dating a client, I'm not going to rule it out, but it hasn't happened. Mostly because the people I see as clients are either married or not "out" about their attraction to trans women.

[joesocalif]

I would love to have a close intimate relationship with a gurl.

[Veal Cutlet]

I been married to a girl over 10 years now who was once GOM at shemale yum. We met through a mutual friend who is also a very very famous TS Star who has posted here years ago. She was our reason for meeting but our hearts (the wife's and mine) took over. I was never a trick, and it was love at first sight for both of us so my wife quit the business (though she was very new to the business) and we now live a normal life where my family & friends all know but no else knows. Yes It can happen if a t-girl falls in love with you and if she has your love and support (not money) too. So trust me a girl would leave the business and never look back if she found true love, not a sugar daddy trick, not just a bed partner, but true love! We built our lives together and we have grown very close over those 10+ years. Love is love and if 2 people find it in each other it does not matter the gender, the race, the financial status, true love wins over the heart.

[hamdasl]

Been with my girlfriend for four years now..........

[kmersh]

To (probably incompletely) answer your questions: The strippers I dated I met somewhere other than their workplace, the guys I've dated met me when I was not working.
I've never given any serious thought to the question of whether or not I would consider dating a client, I'm not going to rule it out, but it hasn't happened. Mostly because the people I see as clients are either married or not "out" about their attraction to trans women.

Actually, you answered my question more completely than I would have ever expected.

I found your last sentence interesting, especially the part about being "out" about their attraction to trans women. It is sad IMHO that dating a transgender person, who in my view is the gender they present in public requires being out. I get it, but it does not bode well for a relationship, again, IMHO.

With regards to my Wife and I, she is a woman, I am a man, we love each other deeply and it does not require being out about anything. It is nobodies business what anatomy she was born with and at least in our social circles, nobody seems to know or if they do know, nobodies seems to care.

I maybe an outlier here, but truth be told her anatomy is nothing more than skin and tubes (anymore it is what it is and I do not even notice it anymore), her anatomy does not make her more or less sexy to me, in fact it is her love for me, our passion for each other that really turns me on.

Or maybe I am just getting old.

[SarahG]

the part about being "out" about their attraction to trans women. It is sad IMHO that dating a transgender person, who in my view is the gender they present in public requires being out. I get it, but it does not bode well for a relationship, again, IMHO.

There are trans women who fall on either side of that topic. I would be mortified if someone I was dating or in a LTR with felt they needed to go around telling people about my genitalia. I have doctors and relatives who don't even know about that.

I guess some of the benefit to being out about that sort of thing would be less worry over anyone finding out. But unless you both go around wearing a tshirt advertising the fact, chances are a lot of people in your social circles just aren't going to know even if you're not proactively making it a secret. People would inevitably gossip but that's not going to reach everyone.

[tacocorpv2]

Yes I would and the only reason I am not currently married/dating anyone is due to my location here (no ts women).. Trying to get a green card... harder than it seems. I could relocate to England, but I've been there and I just couldn't see myself living there... not that it's bad but it's not me. So it is what it is I guess.