Jane Marie going post op

[more cowbell]

Equally hilarious that you think you know anything about other posters here, cowshit. Making assumptions wrongly falls both ways.

Welcome aboard anyway, I dare say you'll add to the general variety that passes by here every day.

cowshit? haha. at least i don't look like a pussy-ass douche bag. i really do hope, for your sake, that that is not really you in your profile pic. but if so, it does explain a lot about your overall demeanor here on this site. i mean let's be real, most online d-bags are folks that have shortcomings in real life. so, i give you a pass. it's a wonder that you haven't taken your own life by now. i certainly would have if i looked the way you do.

now, do you want to continue with being an immature little prick? or do you want to play nice like a big boy? it's hard to tell from your ugly ass picture, but you appear to be somewhat middle aged. regardless of age, you come off as little bitch.

[danthepoetman]

I'll tell you what's part of this whole SRS thing...you have these Tgirls who do porn, and obviously there dicks are a big part of that...actually, the biggest part because obviously, they wouldn't be doing Tgirl in the first place without it.
Then they want to go SRS, which is fine by me, it's there bodies after all and who are we to criticize them for what they want to do.
But the problem is it's like they've been presenting something they want us to like, even love, but the reality is that they themselves really hate it.
So it kind of makes people feel like they've been hoodwinked in a way, like they were tricked or even stupid in the first place for being interested in something the performers themselves want to just get rid of.
It's akin to your favorite musician saying their music really sucks, and you were a moron for liking it in the first place. Or your favorite distiller of scotch whisky getting rid of all their distilling equipment, saying the product was crap to begin with, and calling you a drunken fool for liking it in the first place.

I must say that for once, Nysprod, I'm sensible to this argument. It is true that there is a paradox there, and that it can be very confusing for some. No doubt about that. Once again, it's not the cock loving part that bugs me. And I'm not either anti-gay. I'm not either against guys who entertain the fantasy of the futanari, the Japanese dick girl. All of this is ok and I don't have anything what so ever againt this Nysprod. Nothing. I keep saying this over and over. What I'm uncomfortable with is disrespect, it's this way of saying, like this little cobweb sissy boy, that a girl is perfect with a dick, but that she's not anymore without. You see where I'm getting at? Implicitely, in this, there's this notion that Jane Marie is not a woman, she's just a dick person, purely there for her cock and for the benefit of cockhounds. Jane Marie, as I just said, and I know that you can't disagree with me on this, Nysprod, is an absolutely gorgeous woman. And without a dick, she will remain every bit as beautiful! Of course!
Now, you can argue with me that she might loose some viewers after srs, and that it might be a bad economic move, from a pure business standpoint. I can see this possibility. Formulating things this way, like Franklin does, for instance, is not insulting her, or being disrespectful to her. It's considering things from a certain perspective, which says nothing of her choices as a person and as a woman. But when on the other hand, you have guys that are critical on the personal level, when they imply that the single absence of a cock on a girl is making her less desirable, less interresting, and in some cases, some guys go as far as saying "without interrest", or "gone for me", or even "RIP"! I find it's something terrible, and terribly disrespectful and disdaineous, terribly offensive.
And the reason for my outrage should be obvious. These women go through so much in their lives to get where they are. And as you pointed out very lucidly, their goal and their dream is precisely to be women and to be treated like women! Many of transsexal girls are here on HA who are not doing porn. Many are here to gauge, to some extent the reaction of men to the beauty of ts women, as it is the very power women have over men in sexuality. They are observing reactions, and reading what we write. Every time a guy is so offensive, he's being rude to all of these girls who have to suffer way enough in their social life as is.

I would also add once again that HA is a fan forum. We're here to celebrate, not to make hurtful and denigrating comments, even for girls who do porn! I think it's a basic rule, which follows basic politeness, that if we don't have anything positive to say, we should simply move on to some other thread where we can contribute positively. Simple and nice. No?

This being said, you're right, Nysprod: there is a paradox and a contradiction most of us fans have to live with. The market seems indecisive as to what kind of public it is seeking. That's why I've been thinking for a while that t-porn should always be tagged: either top ts, bottom ts, or versatile, whether it's for sites, forum sections, dvd or what have you... But maybe the market itself is not wide enough yet... or maybe it would not be appealing to some girls to limit their income this way.
But I guess that the point I'm trying to make here, is that we guys have to make the distinction between fantasy (let's say the "shemale" with a big cock that wants to fuck guys and be dominant), and reality, real girls here on the site, who have real lives and real dreams. We should act with them as we are towards anybody else. I would never go to some guy and insult him about his physique or his dreams, even if he was exposing himself here. Why do this?

I'm sorry, I'm extending myself a bit. I'm very tired of some of these cockhounds, and their comments. I'm being long because I'm also thinking about not coming back myself. I'm tired of that bullshit, and I'm tired of getting mad at punks like cobweb. It might also be the little bit of sadness I feel at the idea of Dino leaving too. But I'm not sure I want to be a part of this, when so often girls I admire, girls for whom I have a lot of esteem for, girls I also empathize with, because of their situation, are constantly being insulted. I'm an old guy, my folks just didn't raise me to let someone throw crap at ladies, but I see there's no way to make people understand what this is all about... This might just be my last post here... I feel spent, tonight....

[robertlouis]

cowshit? haha. at least i don't look like a pussy-ass douche bag. i really do hope, for your sake, that that is not really you in your profile pic. but if so, it does explain a lot about your overall demeanor here on this site. i mean let's be real, most online d-bags are folks that have shortcomings in real life. so, i give you a pass. it's a wonder that you haven't taken your own life by now. i certainly would have if i looked the way you do.

now, do you want to continue with being an immature little prick? or do you want to play nice like a big boy? it's hard to tell from your ugly ass picture, but you appear to be somewhat middle aged. regardless of age, you come off as little bitch.

You really are an unpleasant little gobshite, aren't you? I even welcomed you here. Consider that withdrawn.

And if you're god's gift to the ladies, let's see your face. Don't hide behind your name.

Unless you're prepared to do that, shut the fuck up.

[broncofan]

I think he literally shit his pants when you asked him to post his picture.

[robertlouis]

I think he literally shit his pants when you asked him to post his picture.

Probably, bronco, probably.

He needs to learn that coming brand new onto a board just to catcall, insult and provoke may mean that his stay here will be a short one.

[more cowbell]

you can take your insincere welcome and stick it where the sun don't shine. if you're going to immaturely attack my username, then i'll act juvenile right back by attacking your looks. never once did i saw i was god's gift, but for the record, i am a really good looking dude. far from a "sissy boy" like your cohort dan so eloquently put it.

i don't get off by having internet spats with dudes that think they are on some kind of a crusade. i said nothing to demean jane marie in any way. in fact, i think she is the total package when it comes to sexiness and femininity. but i guess i'm way off base to express my opinion of how PERFECT she is right now. excuse me for not sharing your exact views of perfection.

it's both of your guys' M.O. to spurt out these long-winded messages that are much ado about nothing. i think the vast majority of people in this forum are here to celebrate, appreciate, and marvel at the beauty that these women bring to the table. so, please quit trying to make something out of nothing.

most of us don't have time for it. in real life, i would've smashed your face in the first time your popped off with your self-righteousness. get a grip old timers.

[robertlouis]

in real life, i would've smashed your face in the first time your popped off with your self-righteousness.

That's the sound of maturity right there.....

[more cowbell]

It is what it is. Im all about efficiency.

[runningdownthatdream]

you can take your insincere welcome and stick it where the sun don't shine. if you're going to immaturely attack my username, then i'll act juvenile right back by attacking your looks. never once did i saw i was god's gift, but for the record, i am a really good looking dude. far from a "sissy boy" like your cohort dan so eloquently put it.

i don't get off by having internet spats with dudes that think they are on some kind of a crusade. i said nothing to demean jane marie in any way. in fact, i think she is the total package when it comes to sexiness and femininity. but i guess i'm way off base to express my opinion of how PERFECT she is right now. excuse me for not sharing your exact views of perfection.

it's both of your guys' M.O. to spurt out these long-winded messages that are much ado about nothing. i think the vast majority of people in this forum are here to celebrate, appreciate, and marvel at the beauty that these women bring to the table. so, please quit trying to make something out of nothing.

most of us don't have time for it. in real life, i would've smashed your face in the first time your popped off with your self-righteousness. get a grip old timers.

You're outta line.......your original comments were disrespectful. Do you believe that women are meant for your sexual gratification only? Don't you realize that when one of these girls make the decision to transition that it's a really big deal? So rather than bemoan your own personal disappointment how about offering some support?

I think that's what they were trying to highlight for you.

As for the threats of physical violence: you should be more careful. A lot of L.E. types cruise this board - one request to Seanchai and your IP could be traced. You might end up making cow patties behind bars and that won't be good for anybody.

[broncofan]

Great post rdtd. No matter my sexual preference/interest I would never tell a woman taking such a big step that for my own reasons she should not. She should do what she wants to do and her beauty will continue to show through.

I also liked that line about l.e. I didn't know that!