Would it be better if all gay guys transitioned?

[GroobyKrissy]

I think its natural for ts woman to not want to be associated with such people.when you truly feel like your the wrong gender you want nothing more than to be accepted as and treated like the gender you feel.
We feel threatened by such people because "normal society" has a tendency to lump us all together and how can we ever get to a point where society accepts ts woman as woman when you have people running around saying they aren't a woman but a shemale (it).

So, let us expand on the logic then.

First, to continue, we need to answer a few basic questions.

A. Do you agree that there are TWO widely (that is, if you posed the question on the street, "What are the genders?") accepted genders (we should get away from using the term, "woman", which is technically a description of gender - i.e. - manly, he's the man, etc.), Male and Female. I would guess you would probably get maybe 10% or less who would recognize it differently here in the US... probably less than that worldwide.

B. Are you stating that TS should be / is a different gender (science and the public at large should now say there are three distinct genders: Male, Female, and TS - all should have the equivalent rights, privileges, etc. etc.)?

C. If you are not stating B, then you must believe that TS fall into the "female" gender, correct?

We can proceed from there but those questions need answering first.

[BeardedOne]

I'm skipping way ahead on this thread, so have missed a number of the replies (I'll catch up later), but in what I see as a rather fluid (As opposed to simply binary) gender definition/variant, femme guys do not necessarily become/equal T-girls. I've dated both and have seen serious differences, first-hand (As it were).

Just this past weekend, TW and I were on a short day-away decompress and when we were checking out of the hotel she noted the very femme gent at the front desk and said "You have a beautiful face, I bet you look great in drag!" and the guy nearly had a heart attack. =:O It was pretty clear that he was as gay as pink ink and that he was pretty comfortable in his femme persona, but he was not at all in tune to crossing the gender lines any further. In his case, he seemed happy with where he was on the sliding gender scale.

It's not for us to second-guess a person's comfort zone.

[SpoogeMonkey]

i agree, all gay guys should transition so there is an end to homophobia and it ends the 'are we gay' questions on here.

wow.. is that what star trek did?

[Ben]

I was discussing with a friend the other day about how small the transgender community was...

Also, a guy said once before, "Effeminate and cute gay boys should just change to women, so we straight guys can have more options since the number of trans women would go up if they did that."

It led me to think.... I have many effeminate gay friends who were not exactly cute but they have small builds, and looked better as women...

Would it be better for them to transition if they are not having any success with guys in the gay community (masculinity and "straight acting" is highly valued and coveted, while femininity and "limp-wristed" is considered undesirable)?

We would have a lot more trans sisters and more friendships to develop... and more options for the guys!

Well, if they desire it.
Maybe the state should force effeminate guys to transition -- ha ha!
I mean, not all gay guys desire it. If I were to categorize myself, well, I'd say I'm bisexual. I've never had any desire to transition.
Take, say, lesbians. I mean do -- or should -- all lesbians transition???
No. It's absurd, silly.
I doubt many lesbians have given the notion of transitioning any thought whatsoever.

[MacShreach]

Well, if they desire it.
Maybe the state should force effeminate guys to transition -- ha ha!
I mean, not all gay guys desire it. If I were to categorize myself, well, I'd say I'm bisexual. I've never had any desire to transition.
Take, say, lesbians. I mean do -- or should -- all lesbians transition???
No. It's absurd, silly.
I doubt many lesbians have given the notion of transitioning any thought whatsoever.

I wouldn't joke--that is EXACTLY what happens in Iran

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/i...ur-years041212

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7259057.stm

[Prospero]

Too true....

[Rabbiteyes]

I wouldn't joke--that is EXACTLY what happens in Iran

http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/i...ur-years041212

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7259057.stm

That is so depressing ~_~

[handsumjack]

Not for me, sometimes I like to fuck/suck and everything a hard MAN

[RallyCola]

if all gay guys transitioned, fag hags everywhere would be depressed so...in an effort to keep these queen caddies alive and well...gay men should NOT transition. only males who identify women should transition.