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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations...

    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    Joe Biden suggests that Snowden should "man up" and return to the US to face US justice.

    Maybe the NSA and the White House should also "man up" and admit just how all pervasive, intrusive, and illegal their surveillance activities are. Or am I expecting too much?
    State power doesn't want their illicit activities exposed. The state is opposed to anything that minimizes their power.
    Governments are power systems. The only thing they care about is maximizing their power.
    And, too, what society likes dissidents? I mean, why would the government like people like Snowden or Manning or go back decades to Daniel Ellsberg.
    The only ray of hope, as it were, for Snowden might be that Rand Paul becomes President. And I underscore: might. Rand Paul is fairly good on civil liberties.
    But Rand Paul would be quite hideous on other things. So, I'm not advocating a Rand Paul presidency.



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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations...

    Why the Snowden Hero/Traitor Debate Is Meaningless:




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    Rand Paul: Edward Snowden deserves leniency:

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rand-pau...rves-leniency/

    And his dad, Ron Paul, from February:

    Ron Paul launches clemency petition for Edward Snowden:

    http://rt.com/usa/paul-petition-snowden-clemency-950/


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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations...

    I remember Jerry Rubin writing in his book that if he was ever on Death Row for Crimes against the United States his last meal request would be a Burger, Fries, and a Coke.


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    Default Re: Edward Snowden: the whistleblower behind the NSA surveillance revelations...

    Daniel Ellsberg: Snowden would not get a fair trial – and Kerry is wrong:

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...-espionage-act



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    ‘Bullsh*t!’ Greenwald and Iraq Vet Blow Up on Real Time over Snowden Leaks:

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/bullsht-g...snowden-leaks/



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    Orwell’s Dystopian Future Is Almost Here: A Conversation With Glenn Greenwald:

    http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/...ation_20140703



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