It's OK to shoot an escort if she won't have sex with you...

[tsdvdman]

People are saying this is fucked up and expressing sympathy for her not only because she was an escort..but a TS.
But If this was the typical "a BLACK guy" robbed a TS escort and got shot..everyone would be applauding...lol

[robertlouis]

I can't be the only person here who thinks that anyone who thinks it's ok to pull a gun in the middle of an argument in which there's been no threat of violence from the other party is a pretty fucked up way of behaving.

If you disagree with that I'd suggest that any girls who escort and who read this should keep well clear.

[fred41]

Let's change the OP a bit. Forget, for a moment, whether or not the jurors did their jobs properly - none of us sat at the trial...and I don't have a transcript in front of me.
I don't know if she had an extensive record for being a con artist, in which case we might have seen a case of jury nullification. I don't see any record mentioned....so I have to assume that wasn't the case. So forget all that.

Also, for a moment, forget the law.

My only question is this:Just based on the facts sited in some of the news articles -"Do you believe in your heart that the defendant should have received some type of punishment for killing this woman?" (assuming she died of the wound inflicted by the gunshot...apparently he fired at the car three times).

My answer is YES.

I don't have a problem of a person, unarmed or not, getting shot in the act of a home invasion...or even in some other types of robbery. But that isn't the case here. It seems like it was a simple con job...and on top of that, it wasn't even over a lot of money. Once she got to the car and they started driving away...he should have just shook his head and learned from the experience.
I realize some people are probably thinking - she got what she deserved. This is what happens when you try to con the wrong person. Fine. Problem is - he got caught (how could he not)...so now he should be punished. This wasn't the same as killing the man who murdered or molested your child. It was a simple con job.

So again - "Do you believe in your heart that the defendant should have received some type of punishment for killing this woman?"

[bluesoul]

I can't be the only person here who thinks that anyone who thinks it's ok to pull a gun in the middle of an argument in which there's been no threat of violence from the other party is a pretty fucked up way of behaving.

If you disagree with that I'd suggest that any girls who escort and who read this should keep well clear.

why not just warn them not to steal instead? because i don't think the guy in the op was from this forum.

[bluesoul]

YPeople defending her are defending her BECAUSE she was an escort---this is no different than people attacking her for being an escort. It's just the other side of the same coin.

excellent point.

[giovanni_hotel]

[wiltthestilt]

I thought this jury's decision was insane. But the Texas law is even more insane.

§ 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
tangible, movable property:
(1) if he would be justified in using force against the
other under Section 9.41; and
(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
deadly force is immediately necessary:
(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
property; and
(3) he reasonably believes that:
(A) the land or property cannot be protected or
recovered by any other means; or
(B) the use of force other than deadly force to
protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.


Wow. You may shoot someone in the head for making off with your lawn Santa in Texas? You learn someone new every day. I actually buy the defense's argument that this guy was the victim of theft. I have no problem with him being treated the same as an individual who had hired a night-time plumber who was fleeing with his $150 dollars. It is just amazing that the threshold to use deadly force in Texas is so low. All the jury had to find was that this man had a reasonable belief that he could not protect or recover the property by means other than deadly force (not that the loss of the property justified killing). I think the escort angle really detracts from the more important lesson of this story.

[Ben]

Sickest state in the union.

Weren't they going to secede?

[fred41]

People are saying this is fucked up and expressing sympathy for her not only because she was an escort..but a TS.
But If this was the typical "a BLACK guy" robbed a TS escort and got shot..everyone would be applauding...lol

Where did it ever say she was a TS? I didn't read that anywhere.


...and all the recent post about TS escorts getting robbed on this site indicated acts of violence...often involving use of a weapon. Where is there any similarity ?!

[Cecil Rhodes]