Would you go out with a girl knowing that no sex will be involved on the date?

[Rusty Eldora]

i contest that there is a 3rd type of guy...the guys like me....one that does not associate sex with love. i see women as the person they are first in terms of personality, then education then looks. ..

That is why I can handle a provider as a girlfriend. The sex she has at work (generally more massage parlor than FS) is business, but her heart is for me. It probably works because she is OK, even encourages me to have sex with others (like over a dozen of her friends over the years), mostly in duos. Sex is a big part of celebrating love but sex is not love.

One of those friends now is exclusive to her boyfriend. I still enjoy taking her out to dinner on my dime because I love her personality and charm, and fully respect her for her choice. I would really love to make love to her again, but only when it is right for her - which may be never, or soon, who knows.

[TatianaSummer]

yup. i'm not in the business of spending $$$ to entertain on the hope of sex. the difference between sex for $$$ and sex for free is that sex for free usually costs more. if you seem, on the 2nd date, like you are not interested in me, why bother with a 3rd? let the girl score free food and fun from another guy, not me.

i know this girl, (22y/o), that said she wouldn't mind joining all the dating sites, just to never have to buy her own dinner. that's a slut of a different kind, IMHO.

hanging out with female friends is totally different than dating.

I wouldn't bet on that, actually I seen some of my girlfriends paying for the guys food sometimes when dating, just because there are girls going on dates only to eat doesn't mean that most are like that. It just sounds like you are a person expecting fast sex around the corner not willing to wait and be patient or maybe you should change dating site.

[RallyCola]

I wouldn't bet on that, actually I seen some of my girlfriends paying for the guys food sometimes when dating, just because there are girls going on dates only to eat doesn't mean that most are like that. It just sounds like you are a person expecting fast sex around the corner not willing to wait and be patient or maybe you should change dating site.

while i realize that there are some women that pay for dates, i've never encountered one. its an unspoken right/expectation of women everywhere to never HAVE TO pay...especially on a 1st date or any initial dates.

as far as fast sex...again, see my above comment. sex and relationships / emotion / love have NOTHING to do with each other. i dated to find a girl to have fun with and then if it grew to be serious and a relationship blossomed, that's cool. i didn't date to find a long term girlfriend or a wife.

[francisfkudrow]

There are 2 types of guys...

One wants to get to know a person and find a partner and sees girls as individuals and wants to find a special (compatible) one for himself.

The other sees "women" as interchangeable sex slot machines and are trying to hit jackpot for the lowest amount they can put in (time and money).

I'm going to either suggest a 4th type, or revisit the motivations of the 2nd one, depending on how you want to look at it.

A lot of the men who you perceive are trying to "hit the jackpot for the lowest amount they can put in" are just uncertain as to how well things are going. If by the 2nd or 3rd date, they're not seeing at least some progress, they call it a day and move on.

[Idt20082008"]

Absolutely! In fact, just had a nice date last weekend, kissed her on her cheek before she got out of he car, and dropped her off at her door. Had a very nice time and will be taking her out again with no expectations except to have a nice time

[dderek123]

Yes I would go out on a date if I knew there wouldn't be a chance for sex.

Sex or no sex, if I thought that she would play around with her smartphone the whole night there would be no date.

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

yup. i'm not in the business of spending $$$ to entertain on the hope of sex. the difference between sex for $$$ and sex for free is that sex for free usually costs more. if you seem, on the 2nd date, like you are not interested in me, why bother with a 3rd? let the girl score free food and fun from another guy, not me.

i know this girl, (22y/o), that said she wouldn't mind joining all the dating sites, just to never have to buy her own dinner. that's a slut of a different kind, IMHO.

hanging out with female friends is totally different than dating.

Gotta agree with this post. But don't blame us blame chicks like the one on the first page of this thread talking that 1,2,3,4,5....dates with no payoff crap. But will fuck a random guy after one night for a fling.

It's not like this "ritual" has won her a husband just a list of fuck buddies and blue ball ridden fools. So In this instance which guy's the real winner?

[robertlouis]

Yes. Unquestionably. I mean, if I enjoyed her company -- and she was pleasant to talk to.

Always the gentleman, Ben.

And I agree with you. If a first date involves sex, chances are it will turn out to have been a one-night stand.

If, like me, you're interested in a relationship with the entire person, then enjoy the chase, and, I know it's an old-fashioned word, the courtship.

[danthepoetman]

If you knew you won't get any sex, would you still hang out with a girl?

Oh! yes, I would! I’m a “guy” in the worst possible sense of the word. I wear underwear and shirts with holes in them (golf clothings… lol), I drink whatever is in the fridge from the bottle, I fart, have hair coming out of -and growing on- my ears, am sometimes loud, drink too much and so on. When I see a being that takes care of herself, is lovely, big eyes, soft skin, high pitch, melodious voice, dressed with care and a lovely sense of aesthetic, is delicately perfumed, I just feel SHE is the one to concede something to me with her company. I know I will probably sound terribly, terribly corny, once again, but to me, the presence and the company of a woman is always a privilege for a man. Besides, women are so much more interesting then men in general, they are so much more colourful and delicate in their perspectives and have so much more to talk about than we guys do with our sports and our cars. God! Hanging out with guys can sometimes be a huge drag (no pun)!! I can’t even put a proportion on how much more I appreciate the company of a woman to that of a man.
No, I’ve never expected sex on the first date, and nor a kiss either on the first or second. I don’t mean to say I never wished for it or never tried to have one or the other on the first date, on the contrary: I almost always have hoped for it. But just the privilege of getting to know a beautiful woman has always been wonderful to me.

When should that happen if you develop a steady relationship? Well, you have to let it go, and not put dead lines on anything. I once dated a girl who didn’t give me anything for more than a month. We were seeing each other every day and the communication was tremendous. She was giving me little, timid signs, from time to time, like putting her leg on mine for a long time, or playfully grabbing one of my finger on the table for a while, etc. I was trying myself from time to time, without being too pushy, but she was diverting it to something else. When we started kissing, it just came naturally; we had sex the same night and it was to create a fabulous relationship.

[whiteitalianchocolate36]

If it's a first, second, or even third date then yes I would, but after the third date you haven't had sex or messed around in some way then there must not be much of a connection and I would leave it alone.