Brutal attack in London heightens terror fears

[bluesoul]

I'll never understand why the west allows immigration from muslim countries, it seems there is so much to be lost over the long run.

It seems that as a group, they will never fully be "westernized" as the influence of their religion will always percolate.

coincidentally, you yourself, with the above statement, exhibit characteristics that aren't fully "westernized"

[dc_guy_75]

How do western countries need more people who bring with them misogynistic, bronze-age perspectives?

Every muslim worships a middle-eastern, genocidal deity and their cultures/nation states tend to be some the most dirty, backwards places on our planet? Is it any coincidence muslim happen to occupy most of the absolute-shithole countries?

[robertlouis]

How do western countries need more people who bring with them misogynistic, bronze-age perspectives?

Every muslim worships a middle-eastern, genocidal deity and their cultures/nation states tend to be some the most dirty, backwards places on our planet? Is it any coincidence muslim happen to occupy most of the absolute-shithole countries?

Hard to know where to start with this nonsense diatribe.

First of all, yes, we have plenty of misogynistic, primitive folks already. They live in the bible belt and vote republican. Here in the UK they vote for UKIP.

And the "middle-eastern, genocidal deity"? That would be the same God worshipped by Christians and Jews. Although I wouldn't disagree with your definition if the horrific actions of the followers of Christ over the centuries are any guide.....

"Shithole countries". Presumably that includes Malaysia, the Philippines, Indonesia, Turkey, Dubai, Qatar, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Your massive generalisations only serve to confirm your almost total lack of knowledge about the realities and expose you as an ignorant racist. The situation is infinitely more complex than your simplistic prescriptions suggest.

[dc_guy_75]

If we have "primitive" folks already, why import more?

Here in the US, muslims make up 2% of the population, while in the UK its 5% and France closer to 8%. Yeah, that'll work out for you well.

How is it being "racist" when muslims come in all races?

Its a shame that educated people tolerate islam, as a religion.

Religious people can go fuck themselves, especially muslims.

[Cecil Rhodes]

Hard to know where to start with this nonsense diatribe.

First of all, yes, we have plenty of misogynistic, primitive folks already. They live in the bible belt and vote republican. Here in the UK they vote for UKIP. ....

It is very nice of you to show your True Colors R.L.

[Prospero]

Phew.... as RL said it is hard to know where to begin on this one.
1. These people were animals. Clearly brainwashed by radical Jihadists either via the internet or in person. There are groups whose purpose is to recruit and radicalize disassfected young people - organisations such as Hizb'ut Tahrir for instance. There is NO excuse for this behaviour. A cold blooded crime.

2. It appears they were converts - from the afro caribbean community, not immigrants from Muslim countries.

3. They do not represent the mainstream of islam. There is a global battle underway now between the radical elemnets within this faith - most popularly identified with al-Queda - and the br0ader faith which does not in any way encourage or support this behaviour.

4. The backlash this is breeding is unfortunate. The remarks here are, at least, simply words. In the Uk as RL says there have been attacks. Echoes here of the way that the whole irish community was seen as bad and culpable in the aftermath of IRA attacks.

5. I'd disagree with RL that UKIP's policies should be paralleled to those of Jihadists. They are a deeply intolerant political party of "little Englanders" and reflect a growing swing to the right with anti-immigration as one of their key messages. But the sort of impulse reflected by these religious thugs is far far more extreme than UKIP's attitudes. Closer to such past neo-Nazi groups as the national front or the present day British National party or street fighting groups like the English defence league.

[Prospero]

Of course the bovine right emerge on here, as always, to proclaim their clearly deeply held racist and and ill informed attitudes.

[robertlouis]

It is very nice of you to show your True Colors R.L.

I'd have thought they were pretty obvious by now, Cecil.

[robertlouis]

If we have "primitive" folks already, why import more?

Here in the US, muslims make up 2% of the population, while in the UK its 5% and France closer to 8%. Yeah, that'll work out for you well.

How is it being "racist" when muslims come in all races?

Its a shame that educated people tolerate islam, as a religion.

Religious people can go fuck themselves, especially muslims.

You must be lots of fun at parties....

[bobvela]

Sadly, in addition to the initial horror, the incident has sparked anti-Islamic attacks on mosques and individual Muslims by far-right inspired groups, which is, of course, exactly what the perpetrators would have wanted to happen in the first place.

Here's the latest from the BBC.

http://http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22630303

Any time there is an incident of Muslim commuting (or attempting to commit) a terrorist act in a western country... we often hear fears of 'backlash' against the Muslim community in the media (and from the talking heads in the local Muslim community)... fortunately... these fears are often misplaced as the actual rate of # of 'hate' crimes in this country is pretty low... and those against Muslims are even lower per the FBI crime stats.