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    Post Re: Within Two Years Will All TS Porn Be Bareback?

    manny people have been exposed to hiv,herpes and many viruses and pathogen and have not gotten it.

    there is a test




    Bareback porn is killing our community and you're to blame

    Bareback porn is killing porn stars.


    Chad Noel's March 17 death was reported on at GayPornGossip on March 26. The posting read, "Chad Noel age 25, a former 'twink genre' gay porn performer using the stage names of Donny Price & Craven Cox passed away in New York City, on March 17, 2010 following a brief illness associated with complications of HIV." The article also noted that Noel had worked for an adult entertainment company that makes videos of men barebacking--a euphemism for unprotected anal sex. Noel had also performed under the names Craven Cox and Donny Price. Noel was a native of Laramie, Wyoming, the town outside of which Matthew Shepard was beaten and left to die. A notice of Noel's death was also published in the Laramie Boomerang on March 23.

    It is likely that starring in bareback porn starting at 18 will lead to HIV/AIDS, but is the glorification of unprotected sex through the porn industry also leading to an increase in HIV/AIDS related diagnosis among young gay men throughout the country?

    Chad Noel's untimely death is symptomatic of a growing problem in our community. HIV is on the rise for young people, and the glorification of unprotected sex in gay porn is part of the problem.

    When did porn stars start shedding their condoms for riskier bareback sex? Most of the major labels like Titan, Bel Ami, Lucas Films, and Chi-Chi-La Rue all require their actors to wear protection during production. They understand that not only are their films entertainment, but they are educational.

    Proper sex education is lacking in our schools. It has been ever since George W. Bush replaced sex education with "Abstinence Only" education. Fortunately I was taught about sex pre George W. Bush. My mom was a sex education teacher and helped design the curriculum in the school system I attended. Every student learned about condom use, and was shown an awkward demonstration about how to put a condom on a banana.

    Most free gay porn sites are full of bareback sex porn -- the kind of porn that killed young Chad Noel. Why are these sites promoting bareback sex? Because that's what people are looking for...

    The glorification of bareback porn is a dangerous development
    http://www.bilerico.com/2010/04/is_b..._community.php


    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    With people carrying the herpes virus running around the 1 in 3 mark, if you're having sex with anyone, sex worker or not, protected or not, if you're not carrying the virus yourself then you have a 33% chance of having sex with someone who has.



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    I ask because I was just curious on how you felt on it. Personally, if I knew a performer had it, I wouldn't work with them. I think its wrong to hide it from people you are working with. I am not completely educated on the topic, but from the little searching I did, it seems like condoms at least reduce the risk of contracting it. I know there are a lot of people who have it, but I don't see anything wrong with doing all you can to reduce the risk. That includes not working with performers who have it. But I guess that is why they hide it.

    Hopefully this thread doesn't get ruined by the Natina youtube and article spam. It is a good thread.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy Summers View Post
    THIS.

    It amazes me that folks who are actively in porn don't get this fact. The risk of STDs are part and parcel of what we all sign up for. We can and should practice safe sex both on and off screen - all common sense rules apply.

    If you aren't comfortable with this risk, then don't shoot hardcore.
    Is that supposed to mean that we shouldn't try and limit the amount of possible exposure? Your comment actually concerns me because it shows the attitude of a lot of the people. The risk of STD's are a part of life because nearly everyone has sex. There is risk in everything we do. Just because we choose to drive doesn't mean we should accept the risk of getting into an accident and just say fuck it when it comes to wearing a seat belt. No. We put on our seatbelt. We drive a safe speed. We do all we can not to die behind the wheel. Why should sex be any different than any other risk we taken in life?

    There was an interesting article in the huffington post recently. Here is a quote from it: "Professional porn actors are 80 percent less likely to have an STD than members of the public of the same age". I don't know what their source was, but if this is true, than the whole just accept the risk of being a adult performer argument isn't a very strong one.

    "If you aren't comfortable with this risk, then don't shoot hardcore" - That is like saying: If you aren't comfortable with the risk of getting an std, don't have sex at all. Following this logic, then why do anything? Why drive? We can crash. Why eat? We can choke? Why breathe? Possible carbon monoxide. Just because one wishes to be more safe doesn't mean they should just give it up completely.

    I've shot plenty of bareback. However, if I see something weird that looks like an STD I will not do it. If I find out someone has an STD, I won't shoot with them. That seems pretty reasonable. If you are open to shooting with people who have STD's and are willing to spread it around yourself, then....I don't know what that says about a person who is like that.

    source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/1...n_2039449.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkurie View Post
    Having sex is intimate enough with someone you may or may not ever see again in life. I don't need to trade creampies to feel intimate with a fuck partner. Bareback sex is too fucking intimate for me in this day and age -- unless we are at the going to be together when the doctor bills come in.

    Bareback ass fucking is a commitment whether you want to believe it or not. I do not expect actors to take that risk just so I can get an extra thrill watching a porno.
    Absolutely agree. It's why I'm not buying, and haven't for a long time now--over 5 years. I have nothing against it--the opposite in fact--but I am more interested in the emotional charge than simple despunkification.



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    Quote Originally Posted by christianxxx View Post
    its been 120 bucks since 1999 at the AIM clinic in Van Nuys and now the CET and TTS clinics. thats about 15 years. not exactly a new thing.
    And that has always included the NAAT? Honestly, I had no idea! Makes me even more curious about the recent changes. Perhaps everyone needed a decade+ to see that it works just fine for straight porn.



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    Quote Originally Posted by MacShreach View Post
    'oh there's a cure now' equate to 'it's all right to get people sick from formerly incurable diseases.'
    STD's were around since the beginning of porn especially in the 80's or otherwise known as "The Golden Years of Porn". That being said, there were condoms around back then but how often did you see performers use them? Almost never. So I'm sorry to say but even 25 years ago it was an industry too and there was a general lack of concern for performers health be it from the performers themselves or the studios that produced the flicks. Maybe the performers were tested for STD's but probably nothing like they are today. Now factor in that there's a potential cure for HIV/AIDS around the corner and unfortunately either the actors, studios or both will in fact view a cure as "a get out of jail free card" and more than likely standards will start to fall to the wayside. And I don't understand your argument 'oh there's a cure now' equate to 'it's all right to get people sick from formerly incurable diseases.' If it's a 'cured' disease then how are people going to get sick from it? Yea they contract it but they know in the back of their minds that they just need the vaccine and poof........problem solved. Kind of like the day after pill.


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    STD's were around since the beginning of porn especially in the 80's or otherwise known as "The Golden Years of Porn". That being said, there were condoms around back then but how often did you see performers use them? Almost never. So I'm sorry to say but even 25 years ago it was an industry too and there was a general lack of concern for performers health be it from the performers themselves or the studios that produced the flicks. Maybe the performers were tested for STD's but probably nothing like they are today. Now factor in that there's a potential cure for HIV/AIDS around the corner and unfortunately either the actors, studios or both will in fact view a cure as "a get out of jail free card" and more than likely standards will start to fall to the wayside. And I don't understand your argument of 'oh there's a cure now' equate to 'it's all right to get people sick from formerly incurable diseases.' If it's a 'cured' disease then how are people going to get sick from it? I would think that if one is in the porn industry and know the assumed risks they would probably get a preventative vaccine (if in fact the potential cure is capable of working to make the body immune to HIV/AIDS before one contracts it. And if not then it's a failsafe) Yea they contract it but they know in the back of their minds that they just need the vaccine and poof........problem solved. Kind of like the day after pill. Sorry for the double post but I wasn't able to re-edit in time.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post
    the sudden proliferation of barebacking in TS porn
    why is it?
    Staying ahead of the HIV+ infection curve.
    Porn does, society follows.

    I went to a friends wedding reception the other day.
    A few years ago this type of thing would have had a load of people dancing and eating a meal.
    What did happen was some two handed anal fisting!
    I blame porn.

    Kids today...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyler___Durden View Post

    I went to a friends wedding reception the other day.
    A few years ago this type of thing would have had a load of people dancing and eating a meal.
    What did happen was some two handed anal fisting!
    I blame porn.

    Kids today...
    Tyler....
    Am I missing some irony or sarcasm here?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Westheangelino View Post
    ...cheap access to the NAAT/PCR test, which detects HIV virus rather than antibodies meaning the infection/detection window is as little as ten days? Is sex on camera actually the safest sex you can have?
    No.
    Wanking off over the sex scenes, on your 'puter
    is actually the safest sex you can have.



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