The paradox of dating a transgendered woman

[Blueboy1285]

I'm strait. Specifically, I'm not attracted to men at all. My previous relationships have been with women.

I have however, always had a thing for transgendered/transexual women. I love the femininity and the extra effort most girls make to appear womanly, with the nails and the hair and the heels - it all appeals to the red blooded man in me - way more so than the ambiguous hipster girls I meet most of the time.

I'm 28, I'm a 'top', I have a nice apartment/car/bla bla bla. I'm a good looking boy (just sayin') - I'm a catch for anyone, regardless of gender (ok, I'm not Brad Pitt).

So, here's the problem...

I am perfectly willing to have a TG partner - in the open. My friends are all aware and cool with my sexuality, they're good people and I trust them; yet every time I go out (in London) all the TG/TS nights are trashy as hell. There's rarely a girl present you would introduce to your dog, let alone your friends. I'm talking about sexually aggressive, cheap looking, foul mouthed girls who just want cock cock cock - and then complain that nobody loves them for who they are.

While this is just what the doctor order sometimes, it's difficult to envisage myself meeting someone at the way out/trannyshack/fucking 'stunners'... Who I could have a genuine relationship with.

Don't get me wrong - there are beautiful and wonderful women at these events, ive met so many genuinly lovely people at way out etc., but it's rare and very often they are 'working'.

I read the posts here and I hear a lot of noise from girls complaining that guys just want to use them for sex and nothing more. Well, perhaps the fault lies a little with them also. In order to get respect one has to deserve respect. If you behave like an easy lay - that's all you'll ever be.

Listen, I like a good fuck as much as anyone. A one night stand is universal. Saturdays are for fun and no one is stopping you from having it in any way you like. I'm just trying to point out that women (transgendered or not) will be treated how they behave. A lady is a lady no matter what she looks like or what age she is.

Anyway - I'm aware I'm sounding a bit old fashioned and moralistic.

As this is the Internet...here comes the ranting....

[Wendy Summers]

I'm strait. Specifically, I'm not attracted to men at all. My previous relationships have been with women.

I have however, always had a thing for transgendered/transexual women. I love the femininity and the extra effort most girls make to appear womanly, with the nails and the hair and the heels - it all appeals to the red blooded man in me - way more so than the ambiguous hipster girls I meet most of the time.

I'm 28, I'm a 'top', I have a nice apartment/car/bla bla bla. I'm a good looking boy (just sayin') - I'm a catch for anyone, regardless of gender (ok, I'm not Brad Pitt).

So, here's the problem...

I am perfectly willing to have a TG partner - in the open. My friends are all aware and cool with my sexuality, they're good people and I trust them; yet every time I go out (in London) all the TG/TS nights are trashy as hell. There's rarely a girl present you would introduce to your dog, let alone your friends. I'm talking about sexually aggressive, cheap looking, foul mouthed girls who just want cock cock cock - and then complain that nobody loves them for who they are.

While this is just what the doctor order sometimes, it's difficult to envisage myself meeting someone at the way out/trannyshack/fucking 'stunners'... Who I could have a genuine relationship with.

Don't get me wrong - there are beautiful and wonderful women at these events, ive met so many genuinly lovely people at way out etc., but it's rare and very often they are 'working'.

I read the posts here and I hear a lot of noise from girls complaining that guys just want to use them for sex and nothing more. Well, perhaps the fault lies a little with them also. In order to get respect one has to deserve respect. If you behave like an easy lay - that's all you'll ever be.

Listen, I like a good fuck as much as anyone. A one night stand is universal. Saturdays are for fun and no one is stopping you from having it in any way you like. I'm just trying to point out that women (transgendered or not) will be treated how they behave. A lady is a lady no matter what she looks like or what age she is.

Anyway - I'm aware I'm sounding a bit old fashioned and moralistic.

As this is the Internet...here comes the ranting....

The challenge is... as always... venue.

The types of transwomen you describe as searching for do not go to TS/ TG nights at bars. More often than not, they work 9-5 jobs; fly under the radar and no one knows they are trans beyond those closest to them.

[tranlove]

I'm strait. Specifically, I'm not attracted to men at all. My previous relationships have been with women.

I have however, always had a thing for transgendered/transexual women. I love the femininity and the extra effort most girls make to appear womanly, with the nails and the hair and the heels - it all appeals to the red blooded man in me - way more so than the ambiguous hipster girls I meet most of the time.

I'm 28, I'm a 'top', I have a nice apartment/car/bla bla bla. I'm a good looking boy (just sayin') - I'm a catch for anyone, regardless of gender (ok, I'm not Brad Pitt).

So, here's the problem...

I am perfectly willing to have a TG partner - in the open. My friends are all aware and cool with my sexuality, they're good people and I trust them; yet every time I go out (in London) all the TG/TS nights are trashy as hell. There's rarely a girl present you would introduce to your dog, let alone your friends. I'm talking about sexually aggressive, cheap looking, foul mouthed girls who just want cock cock cock - and then complain that nobody loves them for who they are.

While this is just what the doctor order sometimes, it's difficult to envisage myself meeting someone at the way out/trannyshack/fucking 'stunners'... Who I could have a genuine relationship with.

Don't get me wrong - there are beautiful and wonderful women at these events, ive met so many genuinly lovely people at way out etc., but it's rare and very often they are 'working'.

I read the posts here and I hear a lot of noise from girls complaining that guys just want to use them for sex and nothing more. Well, perhaps the fault lies a little with them also. In order to get respect one has to deserve respect. If you behave like an easy lay - that's all you'll ever be.

Listen, I like a good fuck as much as anyone. A one night stand is universal. Saturdays are for fun and no one is stopping you from having it in any way you like. I'm just trying to point out that women (transgendered or not) will be treated how they behave. A lady is a lady no matter what she looks like or what age she is.

Anyway - I'm aware I'm sounding a bit old fashioned and moralistic.

As this is the Internet...here comes the ranting....

I'm with you Blue. if I was not married I could see my myself having a relationship with a Tgirl, but like you, any experience I had is with girls in the sex industry or girls in a support group trying to complete their operation.

[MacShreach]

The challenge is... as always... venue.

The types of transwomen you describe as searching for do not go to TS/ TG nights at bars. More often than not, they work 9-5 jobs; fly under the radar and no one knows they are trans beyond those closest to them.

Exactly. The difficulty that presents is, however, obvious.

[Rusty Eldora]

You have a perception and a desire to be with a Trans woman, but does that match any real trans woman. It is sort of like wanting a partner that is Italian, tall, blonde, or ___ .

I've dated escorts before and have no problem with their work, or them staying working when we are together. I just spent a week with a Tgirl and found that Tgirl quite amazing. However, I doubt it will be anything more than a very good friendship. I learned a lot during the week about tgirls that adjusted my perceptions, usually to the better.

I would suggest that you do some sessions with a professional, picking to the best available for your type. You might find that your perceptions need adjusting.

Still look for the woman that is perfect for you, either GG or TG. Good luck

[bluesoul]

I'm 28, I'm a 'top', I have a nice apartment/car/bla bla bla. I'm a good looking boy (just sayin') - I'm a catch for anyone, regardless of gender (ok, I'm not Brad Pitt).

well, aren't you in the right place, because not only are all the male members of this forum "tops" with "nice apartments/car/bla bla bla" but we're also all good looking and pretty much a cross section of brad pitt and johnny depp.

in fact, just the other day the girls had a thread titled "why are all the guys here such amazing catches" but it was quickly deleted not to jinx things.

so on behalf of the fellowship of good looking strictly straight males here, welcome and remember to remove your shoes before jumping into the pool.

[Ms.Stepford]

Fuck that slut-shaming noise.

[dderek123]

I have however, always had a thing for transgendered/transexual women.
So, here's the problem...

There's rarely a girl present you would introduce to your dog, let alone your friends. I'm talking about sexually aggressive, cheap looking, foul mouthed girls who just want cock cock cock - and then complain that nobody loves them for who they are.

You like TS women but don't like flamboyant trashy women who have a lot of baggage. Just keep looking until you find the right one and try to enjoy yourself along the way. It's simple.

[nysprod]

Fuck that slut-shaming noise.

Exactly,the original post is just stereotypical chaser bullshit...like he's mr. great catch even though he plays in the scene, but the girls are all trash...

[SheWantsTheD]

I'm strait. Specifically, I'm not attracted to men at all. My previous relationships have been with women.

I have however, always had a thing for transgendered/transexual women. I love the femininity and the extra effort most girls make to appear womanly, with the nails and the hair and the heels - it all appeals to the red blooded man in me - way more so than the ambiguous hipster girls I meet most of the time.

I'm 28, I'm a 'top', I have a nice apartment/car/bla bla bla. I'm a good looking boy (just sayin') - I'm a catch for anyone, regardless of gender (ok, I'm not Brad Pitt).

So, here's the problem...

I am perfectly willing to have a TG partner - in the open. My friends are all aware and cool with my sexuality, they're good people and I trust them; yet every time I go out (in London) all the TG/TS nights are trashy as hell. There's rarely a girl present you would introduce to your dog, let alone your friends. I'm talking about sexually aggressive, cheap looking, foul mouthed girls who just want cock cock cock - and then complain that nobody loves them for who they are.

While this is just what the doctor order sometimes, it's difficult to envisage myself meeting someone at the way out/trannyshack/fucking 'stunners'... Who I could have a genuine relationship with.

Don't get me wrong - there are beautiful and wonderful women at these events, ive met so many genuinly lovely people at way out etc., but it's rare and very often they are 'working'.

I read the posts here and I hear a lot of noise from girls complaining that guys just want to use them for sex and nothing more. Well, perhaps the fault lies a little with them also. In order to get respect one has to deserve respect. If you behave like an easy lay - that's all you'll ever be.

Listen, I like a good fuck as much as anyone. A one night stand is universal. Saturdays are for fun and no one is stopping you from having it in any way you like. I'm just trying to point out that women (transgendered or not) will be treated how they behave. A lady is a lady no matter what she looks like or what age she is.

Anyway - I'm aware I'm sounding a bit old fashioned and moralistic.

As this is the Internet...here comes the ranting....

Well don't just do the clubs, go to the tgirl dating sites (not the escort sites) and if you look properly you will find a few in london who want a relationship. Most people who are after real and lasting relationships don't go out to clubs, they avoid it for the same reasons you listed. They can't seem to find anybody good/genuine there.