Does a man have an obligation to tell a potential date, of his interest in TS women?

[Tyler___Durden]

deception

I'm not replying to your last post, not through rudness
but because I genuinely don't understand what you are trying to express.
If you feel inclined to reword either on this thread or via PM, I'll happily give you my take on it, if you like.

You are aware that the mindset of equating trans-women living in society as women, with the word deception, gets us killed.
And that's not limited to trans-women who have sexual liaisons without revealing their trans-stuff,
but to trans-women just going about their lives in general.

Do you think black people should be lynched, because they are black?
{It's the same thing}

[nysprod]

I don't think it's a good idea to reveal too much either way...you meet someone, they're not a virgin and neither are you. It's opening a can of worms you won't be able to close later.

That being said, if you're a guy into TG and you're getting serious with a GG, you should think long and hard before making any promises you may not be able to keep going forward.

[bluesoul]

Do you think black people should be lynched, because they are black?
{It's the same thing}

no and no (it's not the same thing).

not sure what you meant by everything else you wrote. there is nothing i see necessary to reword either.

[Tyler___Durden]

What's your personal stance re. my Original Post?

• If you're married or in a long term relationship, do you feel it's ok to keep your man/woman in the dark about your interest in trans-women?
  Or have you told them, and if so, at what point in your relationship did you disclose?
• If single, do you feel you have an obligation to tell a date of your trans interests? Do you do this?
• Do you feel that people who are married or long term relationships, yet have an 'outside interest' in trans are being deceitful to their partner?
• Would you consider this deceit better/worse/the same as a tran-woman not revealing her trans-stuff to a third party?
• If you had an operation to repair an un-descended testicle, would you feel obliged to reveal THIS VERY PERSONAL DETAIL to every person you dated?
• Do you have any opinion as to why trans women are held to a higher lever of personal disclosure than the rest of society?

[BluegrassCat]

• If single, do you feel you have an obligation to tell a date of your trans interests? Do you do this?

Of course not. There's lots of information you don't share with someone until you've built a relationship of trust with them.

• Do you feel that people who are married or long term relationships, yet have an 'outside interest' in trans are being deceitful to their partner?

If the failure to disclose the interest is harming the relationship or if the person is acting on those interests, then yes. Otherwise no.

• Would you consider this deceit better/worse/the same as a tran-woman not revealing her trans-stuff to a third party?

Third party, like her boyfriend? For the relationship it's equally problematic but it's worse for trans-folk generally. As Dan Savage says if you're too fearful about disclosure and choose to lie to the people you love, then you're living without honesty or integrity. You're also depriving the world of another example of a "normal" transperson which makes acceptance that much more difficult and more unlikely for the next trans-person. So taken as a whole, that failure to disclose is more problematic.

• Do you have any opinion as to why trans women are held to a higher lever of personal disclosure than the rest of society?

Identity > Attraction, as women on this board frequently remind us. There's a much stronger argument that we have a right to express our identity than we have a right to let others know about our sexual proclivities. Identifying as trans in the workplace should not be a fireable offense. Talking about who or what I find erotic very well could be.

[Tyler___Durden]

Well by third party I was thinking of the person on the bus,
the guy in a bar who said 'Hi'
the new partner of your sister, who doesn't know.
Basically any non sexual partner. That's for a pre-SRS Ts.
Post SRS then it may include sexual partners too. (Probably casual encounters, though I've heard of some Post op Ts women who never revealed their past to their husbands)

As to revealing that you have a trans aspect to your life/past, to a partner,
I asked my Hubby. He said he would be disgusted to find out that I'm trans
and that I haven't mentioned it at any time in the 4 years of our relationship.
I then asked him about my cock.
He said he assumed it was just a large 'girly-pole'

UK sex education is somewhat lacking!

[Tyler___Durden]

Though this is by-the by.

I was asking about men into ts women, revealing this enormous fact to the world at large.
Remember kids, you men are a lot less likely to get murdered by this disclosure than us lot are by our disclosure.
For us the stakes are simply higher.
Come on men, lets hear from more of you.
Do you talk about your love of Trans-women?
It's good to share.



Oh, I just remembered.
A while ago just before xmas, a man shared his trans interest with his wife of 20 years. They searched out local Ts-escorts and saw my page.
They kept looking and booked me and cancelled 3 times. Wife bottling out.
We eventually met about a month ago and the wife was into me big time. More than her hubby.
Spoken a lot more on the phone to both of them and am seeing them again soon.
Sometimes telling your partner has a nice ending.
Depends upon how open minded both partners are.

[babewonder]

It is the responsible thing to do to inform everyone your may be sleeping with regardless of gender

[runround04]

No, I may potentially like other women too, no need to share that.

[mac.B]

Trans-women=deception.
Ok I'm gonna roll with your definition for now.
I'm not really a Ts woman but I'm actually a defence lawyer
doing research for an upcoming trial. {On Monday actually}
My client was going into a local library when he held a door open for a woman.
The woman went to the gender studies section and selected a book called

Curious, my client got into a conversation with the woman.
Being comfortable and perhaps a little naive, the woman explained that she had a transsexual history. She had also undergone a range of gender related surgery's and she held a Gender Recognition Certificate (GRC) and as a consequence she was legally recognised as female. Her driving licence, passport and birth certificate were now listing her as female. She had also very recently been married in a church, so god was fine about this too.
She had been a broker convicted of insider trading. She was out on day-release from a female prison. (Obviously her GRC obliged the courts to treat her as female in every way)
Well my client (for some unfathomable reason) felt offended. So he killed her.
Till reading your post, myself and the rest of the defence team were stumped for any plausible defence.

My question to you is this.
For $400 /day + expenses would you be able to sell your views to a jury?

I know that this will alienate you within the trans community on HA,
but they've not 'real' women so they don't really count.


Oh next week we are defending another client who is a 220lb cage fighter,
who killed a blind deaf one legged eight year old child, just for a laugh.
The child in question was black.
With a few tweaks, do you think you could alter your deception (sub human) argument,
to get this other client found 'Not guilty' too?

I'm high off Yoda OG and its telling me that this is the smartest post that I have seen on this forum.