We're Not Gay And We're Not Straight

[Ms.Stepford]

Ed knows how to party!

[bluesoul]

So if a woman has an enlarged clitoris (like 2 to 3 inches) is going down on her gay?
If you have vaginal sex with a trans man is that heterosexual?
If your gg partner fucks you with a strap on what's that?
Or if your gg girlfriend is intersexed with a vaginia but has testicles internally?
You see how stupid shit like this is smh

id' say the woman with the enlarged clitoris probably someone with an engorged clit (perhaps a hereditary condition or just an embarrassing mutation of that piece of genitalia) so going down on her makes one straight (unless they're female).

i'd say having sex with a transman (if you're a male) is a hetrosexual act because this is a masculine woman. there are actually some women who look like transmen but aren't- they're just extremely masculine in appearance and (in some cases) not lesbians.

if you're girlfriend fucks you with a strap-on i'd say you're bissexual because you're replicating a homosexual act with a heterosexual partner.

if you're girlfriend is inter-sexed i'd say you're bissexual because even they have both sexes

that "shit" wasn't "stupid" at all. the thing that makes it complex is when people bring their feels/wishes/personal opinions into play- but by definition, it's smart as paint.

think of it like this: imagine if 10,000 years from now someone were to excavate a burial site and discover some buried bones in a casket. they remove the bones and just by performing carbon dating, they find that both those individuals were female. they may have lived as man and wife, or wife and wife or just lovers (you'd never know unless some record remains), but just by the bones, you'd know they were female.

a modern example would be pharaoh hatshepsut of egypt. she lived as a male pharoah despite being born female. do we acknowledge her as a male? nope.

[bluesoul]

Yes, but they all personify as male.

really? isn't this a generalization? if you want, i can screencap for you what a particular gay male said on another forum that will contradict your statement.

Exactly my point...TGirls are not the same sex or gender as me (us). I (we) are unquestionably male.

what are you going by to come to this conclusion?

let me ask you a hypothetical question: if someone were in need of medical help and the paramedics asked "please tell me the gender of this person" and you knew they were female to male transsexual- what would be your answer?

[dderek123]

Yeah, I gotcha. But none of it is as heavy to figure out in your head than that you're trans when you're four.

Congrats on knowing what you want and getting it!

Yeah the two paths in life can't be compared but life is short. You gotta get it right the first time around.

[Ms.Stepford]

In an FtM trans man, their gender is male.

Their sex is, until we fix the broken way we talk about things, female.

Realize, this is just the way we've been taught to talk about it, by thousands of years of cissexist thought.

[tluva]

Seems this topic picked up it's own thread. Here's my 2 cents:

I don't think we need a third category here. There's straight and gay. Homosexuality by definition means attracted to the same sex.

I'm not. I'm attracted to women. Transexuals look, act, and smell like women. The fact that they have a penis is just a kinky taboo irony. I look at my cock all the time, and cock is all over porn, so it's not like I'm offended by cock. When I take in the whole sight of a transexual girl, the entire form is still very much feminine and that's what I'm attracted to.

As for being a bottom, that too is not necessarily gay in my mind.

A) Anal stimulation feels good, and it's a known fact that many straight couples practice it (on the guy)
B) I'm in touch with my feminine side (which we all have). Not so much that I'm going around all flamboyant like a stereotypical gay dude, but I do envy the pussy power, and how sexy women are, and sometimes I want to be worshiped like that too.

But at the end of the day, I'd man up and do whatever a typical straight guy does. I see myself wanting a wife, and kids, and a normal straight life and being very content with that.

Most GG girls I've dated are snobby little princesses. Not that TS girls are much better, but I hoped that since we have something more in common that it would be easier to get along with them.

Generally speaking that's been true. On this forum, not so much.

[Jericho]

So what are we? There really isn't a word or terminology for us...not that I really care one way or the other what someone wants to label me, but I'm just saying we're in some sort of in between thing that isn't easily categorized.

Headfucked!
Once you accept that, ...

[Ms.Stepford]

Most GG girls I've dated are snobby little princesses. Not that TS girls are much better, but I hoped that since we have something more in common that it would be easier to get along with them.

Generally speaking that's been true. On this forum, not so much.

That's a really stupid hope, founded in fallacy.

My cock doesn't have any bearing on how I relate to people.

[dderek123]

Headfucked!

In more ways than one!

[Jericho]

In more ways than one!

On a good day!