PASSABLE GIRLS!! IS IT FAIR?

[Ecstatic]

I'm lucky, I found my soulmate and lifetime companion 30 years ago and in three weeks we will be celebrating our silver anniversary (her silver anniversay present: a 2006 SILVER VW JETTA!). I love her with all my heart. She happens to be GG, but she knows my interest in TGs, and has met my best TG friend over dinner.

You look very happy with your baby, Yasmin, and I'm happy for you.

Hey Mega, my man! A big shout out. Glad to hear things are going well with you and yours.

[bigd321]

I do understand the social game circling around beauty. It's hard period. What about acceptance from the guy that are interested in us. should we continue fighting the battle alone? should we invest in somone who stands if we are drowing? I'm not asking my man to introduce us to a business party..career is one thing..would be nice though...family...should if he looks at u for life partner. but if he only hit daylight with u if u're passable ....that's shitting..

Oh that's what you're talking about. Now that issue is a total pet peeve of mine. You would have tobe a ball-less scumbag piece of crap if you want to be in a relationship with someone and then deny them on all fronts publically. Let's be realistic here, if you're so weak mentally that you fear any potential scorn that could happen I don't think it's really selfish to bring someone else in and putting them through that embarrassment. If anything just don't even start a relationship. Doing it is selfish and weak. If it's just a sexual relationship then it could be different, even though "passablility" could still play an issue, because even with genetic girls you just sleep with aren't gonna be introduced to family and friends and depending on how skanky they are may not even be seen freely in public with. Or atleast public places where people know you.

[slinky]

There are plenty of guys out there who would treat a "non-totally-passable but very hot" TS in every way in which she would want. And when those guys walk up to those TS's in clubs, they won't give them the time of day because they are totally focused on looks and wouldn't consider any guy who isn't model material.

kharma is a bitch.

I was just out at a bar last night where this was the case. Every girl in the place who was reasonably hot was going after ONE guy, who obviously wasn't the type of guy who would do all the things they want. But he was the hottest guy in the place, and the were on him like white on rice. And then they are suprised at the results.

If you don't want to be "judged" on your looks, the best place to start is by dialing back a bit on your judgement of the looks of others. And not to be a hater, but in general TS's are the most looks conscious of anyone on the planet.

[DJ_Asia]

Ya know,

you guys need to grow some balls! If you want to have a serious relationship w/ a t-girl,then you need to let important people in your life know about it.Yeah it takes some guts,buthey thats life.
Nobody wants to be left at home,because the man she loves is ashamed or embarresed to bring her around.

To be perfectly honest,I dated a stunning black GG,and got more shit in public for that then I ever have from hanging out with a t-girl.

DJ Asia

[scorpion]

I shold never being shame four my patner or have never been. he/she is my choise and nobodys else. The same is how I have choise my life. I have never hide my sexuall since I was sure about it. Its about 22 years ago now.. and evryone seams to accept it.
But wath confuse mee is that many seams to accept my relations whit other guys more natruall than the relations I have whith t-girls or TVs. Maybee is it so a gay person is not so unusuall today but t-girls arent so usuall at lest not here in kopenhagen..
Hmm I wonder how choked my friends should bee if I should pic a real girl?

No this never gonna happend.
Scorpion

[starshine_tara]

Hiya!

I have been living as a woman for nearly four years now. I had facial surgery in 2004 that involved having my jaw recontoured, my brow recontoured, my trachea (adams apple) shaved, and my nose fixed.

'Passability' is still a big issue for me. I get double takes, stares, and even ridicule in the streets on occasion - not great for a girl's confidence - and believe me I don't dress that extreme! For me, I am winning when I don't get noticed too much at the mall!

I am treated with respect at work now (a large insurance company), although that has been due to the intervention of the 'equal opportunities' officer on more than one occasion. You'd think that would be unnecessary in 2006 wouldn't you? Would you believe that it is actually very hard for TS women to get decent employment if they are not completely 'passable' - even with a university degree?

I have been living with my boyfriend for the past 2.5 years and he stands by me whatever. He is never phased - even when people refer to us as 'lads' when we are together (I am a jeans and t-shirt type gal). I am so grateful that he loves me so much and honestly believe that we will be together forever! I know that he really cares for me as he was stood by my bed in the middle of the night after my 7.5 hour facial operation holding one of those medical trays up whilst I vomited blood!

I do hope that I am not too "hard on the eye". It's great to hear the views of men who appreciate TG/TS women by the way. I still have my dangly thing but had an orchidectomy (surgical removal of testes) in 2003. I can raise 5 or so inches still, but have definitely shrunk some! I used to be about 7.5 inches.

I have been referred for SRS - but frankly I am thinking of working on my visual appearance until I am treated as the woman that I feel that I am, in my day to day life, before I take that step. Maybe passability is a dream that not everyone can achieve? Maybe I'll be chasing it forever?

Tara xxx

Whoa! I let rip there with my first post didn't I?!

I hope that my perspective is worth something here...even though I'm not a porn star.

[YasminLee]

IM SO CONFUSE WITH MY BF RIGHT NOW. WE CARE FOR EACH OTHER REALLY MUCH BUT I FEEL LIKE I'M MISSING SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF HIM..HIS FAMILY. HE'S ALWYS WITH THEM..STILL LIVE AT HOME..AND I'M FIGHTING JUST TO SPEND SOME TIMES WITH HIM..HIS MOTHER IS GOING CRZY AS TO WHO I AM AND WHY HER SON IS NOT BRINGING HER HOMN.. TO HER.. I'M SOMEONE THAT'S KEEPING HER SON AWY FROM FAMILY.....HE'S JUST NOT READY FOR HIS FAMILY TO KNOW..HOWEVER..I FEEL THAT IN ORDER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, HE SHOULD LET THEM KNOW....I DON'T WANNA LOOSE HIM BUT I FIND MYSELF LOOKING AT OTHER GUYS NOW..... IS THAT WRONG?

[stillies77]

no way yasmin...i would feel the same way...he should be proud of you...you are a good person and a sweetheart...i think he just needs time...

[YasminLee]

HE IS VERY GOOD TO MY OTHER WISE..IT'S HARD TO FIND SOMEONE WHO U CAN FEEL SO COMFORTABLE IN JEANS AND SHIRT..IM A STAY AT HOME GIRL..I LOVE THAT HE'S 22 AND WANTING TO STAY IN WITH ME THAN GOING OUT WITH HIS BUDDIES

[stillies77]

i am the exact same way...i'm 21 and would rather sit at home and watch dvds with a girl than go to some bar and get hammered all night...i would rather rub my fingers through someones hair and watch them fall asleep next to me and just be...comfortable...it just makes you feel whole.