Hot MMA Fighter Comes Out as Transsexual

[sophiebendable]

If people feel that Fallon is still a man, and that she's beating up women they will take offense. Simple as that. I'm still not certain what to think, the whole situation is confusing to be honest. I actually would like to hear what a doctor or scientist would have to say, but on first glance this doesn't look good. If a doctor says that Fallon has no physical advantages over a genetic female, people are still going to take offense and call it BS. Because like I said before, on first glance it sure doesn't look that way. And if a doctor says she does have an advantage, then certain people will quickly label the doctor as a "Bigot" or "Ignorant" or "Bully" or something along those lines.

I'm sorry but this is one is kind of common sense. I mean are you seriously going to sit there, and say Fallon is weaker than these girls she's fighting? I understand playing the victim and all, but seriously?

This is confusing to you because you know nothing about it. You could just do some research or listen to what experts have already said on the issue, but you seem to be choosing to remain ignorant. I'm not surprised that you're saying policy should be determined by the least intelligent and most prejudiced people because you seem to fall into that group. Luckily, that is not how anything works in reality. People care whether things are true or not.

[Flaco]

This is confusing to you because you know nothing about it. You could just do some research or listen to what experts have already said on the issue, but you seem to be choosing to remain ignorant. I'm not surprised that you're saying policy should be determined by the least intelligent and most prejudiced people because you seem to fall into that group. Luckily, that is not how anything works in reality. People care whether things are true or not.

Please quote me where I said that. And why don't you back up your claims with evidence? Why not show me what the experts "Have already said on the issue" ? I'm willing to learn.

[amberskyi]

Depending on how early she started taking hormones it's possible her skeletal and muscular structures would of developed the same as any females.
After prolong use of hormone replacement therapy we lose muscle mass.also since she is now post op testosterone is something her body no longer naturally produces.
I'm really surprised by the lack of information on here about transitioning and the physiological effects.it's just not all boobs and long hair guys lol

[Flaco]

Depending on how early she started taking hormones it's possible her skeletal and muscular structures would of developed the same as any females.
After prolong use of hormone replacement therapy we lose muscle mass.also since she is now post op testosterone is something her body no longer naturally produces.
I'm really surprised by the lack of information on here about transitioning and the physiological effects.it's just not all boobs and long hair guys lol

Amber, this was a person who started taking hormones 6 or 7 years ago. Are you seriously going to tell me her 30 years of development as a man, was completely changed by her 6-7 years of using hormones? I seriously doubt it. And I think Fallon herself, doubted it. Why else would she lie about her transition until recently? I mean it's not even like she was young and taking hormones, she was a full blown man till the age of 30. And I'm pretty sure in a male body, the adrenal gland still produces testosterone (Even when the person no longer has a testes).

[amberskyi]

Amber, this was a person who started taking hormones 6 or 7 years ago. Are you seriously going to tell me her 30 years of development as a man, was completely changed by her 6-7 years of using hormones? I seriously doubt it. And I think Fallon herself, doubted it. Why else would she lie about her transition until recently? I mean it's not even like she was young and taking hormones, she was a full blown man till the age of 30. And I'm pretty sure in a male body, the adrenal gland still produces testosterone (Even when the person no longer has a testes).

In the same amounts that it would produce in a woman.as we know woman also have an adrenal gland and also produce minimal amounts of testosterone as well.unless your willing to do the research yourself you really should take our word on the effects of hormone replacement therapy.most of us have dealt with this most of our life and see specialist (endocrinologist) for our treatments.conjecture is pointless and just perpetuates misinformation.
The whole 30 thing is a factor.very true, he would of been fully developed as a man.while that may of been the case here keep in mind that all ts woman aren't the same.it's unfair to say that being a ts is an advantage in and of itself

[dderek123]

Amber, this was a person who started taking hormones 6 or 7 years ago. Are you seriously going to tell me her 30 years of development as a man, was completely changed by her 6-7 years of using hormones? I seriously doubt it. And I think Fallon herself, doubted it. Why else would she lie about her transition until recently? I mean it's not even like she was young and taking hormones, she was a full blown man till the age of 30. And I'm pretty sure in a male body, the adrenal gland still produces testosterone (Even when the person no longer has a testes).

I think there is a lot of grey area to this issue and lots of variables at play. It is most likely true (I'm no doctor oc) that after HRT a TS would lose a significant amount of strength and endurance. What if this would put Fallon at a significant disadvantage when she fights in the cage? Would it be wise for a doctor working for the athletic commission that is sanctioning the fight to clear her to? What if she could get seriously injured? What if there would be a chance that she would end up on this list?
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We are talking about MMA here not badminton. It's a dangerous sport. I think Fallon should be cleared to fight if it is proven in a medical study with peer review that she wouldn't be endangering herself or her opponents when she steps in the cage.

Like i posted earlier is if she goes to an underground show and badly hurts herself or someone else then no TS are going to be licensed to fight for a very long time. Essentially any TS that aspire to be doing what Fallon does would have a much more difficult time. That would be a major loss for the TS community.

PS I think this is an opportunity for the LGBT community to promote more understanding about what it is to transition which would help the public understand more about the plight of TS around the world.

[Bribi]

As a MMA follower, I heard about it.

My take on it is, I'm not sure it's fair for the other girls. If scientists and doctors can proove that at 100% she has no advantage due to her being a male before, then let her fight women. No problem with that.
But I doubt that hormones can turn your body 100% to a female body. You still have a bone structure, a muscle structure, different than a GG. Especially with MMA training. The differences will be more visible than on a GG and a TG not trained.

You got to understand that it's a hurting business. It's not a soccer or basketball game where the end of it is you take more goals or points. It's a sport where a person can be physically hurt badly.

But at the same time, it would not be fair for her to fight male.

There is a case in thai boxing with a fighter who became a women and apparently started destroying GG.

So it's a turning point in the sport of MMA. Maybe even in sport.

[dderek123]

From an MMA blog:
http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news...ut-her-gender/

White: Fox needs to be way better before we worry about her gender
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Whether Fox will be licensed to continue fighting females ultimately will be decided by the governing bodies, according to White.

"It's a question for the athletic commissions," he told the Abe Kanan Show on SiriusXM. "The athletic commissions, I don't know how they would rule on that. That's a really tough one, and that's in the hands of the commission, not me."

"Here's the other thing," White said. "All this other hype about Fallon Fox fighting in the UFC or whatever, understand this first and foremost: Everyone that Fallon Fox has fought has a losing record.

"So before you even think about fighting in the UFC or whatever – he was a man and now he's a woman – he's fighting girls who have losing records. Before you get too crazy about him being in the UFC, he's so freaking far from being in the UFC that it's not even funny."

It doesn't look like Fallon will get her opportunity. But you never know what might happen.

[Bribi]

For sure, she needs to proove that she can fight in the UFC.
I know some people will say that it's because of her gender, but it's not.
You don't sign with the UFC because you have a particularity.
It's because you have the level.
Then, she is a 145 pounder, and there is not even a 145 pounds division for women in UFC.
Can she make 135?

[dderek123]

Can she make 135?

I think it's possible. But would she decide to do so?

Cyborg elected not to go down in weight and she was offered a title fight against a champ that has been getting a lot of press lately. She basically said that her doctor advised her to not cut so much weight. IDK but I think cutting weight wouldn't suit her fighting style too well. And she usually weighs in over by around 10 pounds usually.