good site for videos?

[Christina Fox]

whats a good site for free full length stuff?

[bluesoul]

youtube

[GroobySteven]

Do you mean stolen stuff?
Why don't you just pay for it - and then those that make it get paid also.

[Quiet Reflections]

whats a good site for free full length stuff?

tube sites get no love around these parts

[sukumvit boy]

Oops!

[youngblood61]

Shhhhhhh!

[Wendy Summers]

Do you mean stolen stuff?
Why don't you just pay for it - and then those that make it get paid also.

Who's that chick in your avatar - her crossed eyes are hot...

Ok on to serious shit...

Tube websites featuring full length clips are evil... here's why

I'm an Independent transsexual porn producer. Any porn I shoot, it costs me. Before I can even hope to sell it, I need to pay for the folks working on it - the person behind the camera and any other talent working with me. I have to pay for a location where we can shoot; I need to pay for any unusual set pieces, props or costumes. Then a few weeks or months later the set goes up and I get sales... or I don't. If I stop getting sales, I'm dead in the water. I won't be able to produce porn anymore. This is all without me drawing any money for my own compensation.

I will gladly put clips out onto the web to drive sales - it's good marketing. But a whole set? That's pissing money. No one wants a full clip on the tube sites... it's always stolen and put there by someone.

I'm not going to give away my numbers, but let's hypothetically say it costs me $500 to produce a set (it doesn't but it should illustrate the point). I put that $500 clip onto a tube website in hopes of driving traffic. If I put that up on a tube for free, I need to get 34 signups at $14.99 (my website's monthly rate) to make back that money. My website converts at 1 in 300 - that means for every 300 folks who visit www.wendysummers.com, 1 signs up. So I need 10,200 folks to see that clip and come to my website to get the 34 signups I need. Looking at tube sites, their top promoted shemale clips are at 100,000 views. There's no way that 10% of the folks who watch a FREE full-length video will join my website.

Maybe 0.5% might, but that's all of 1.7 memberships... no where near the 34 necessary to break even, forget about me covering overhead like credit card fees, hosting fees, etc.

The tube websites make money because they (or surrogates) steal my content and use it to sell things like webcams, sexual enhancers and sex toys.

Every time you use a tube website like that, you are helping to ensure me and many other hard working performers will not be able to make any more porn. I beg you, please stop... I LIKE making porn and would love to do it for a long time coming. But if I can't even breakeven on production costs, I can't do it.

[rodinuk]

There you go:

http://videos.howstuffworks.com/

[JPeterson]

Who's that chick in your avatar - her crossed eyes are hot...

Ok on to serious shit...

Tube websites featuring full length clips are evil... here's why

I'm an Independent transsexual porn producer. Any porn I shoot, it costs me. Before I can even hope to sell it, I need to pay for the folks working on it - the person behind the camera and any other talent working with me. I have to pay for a location where we can shoot; I need to pay for any unusual set pieces, props or costumes. Then a few weeks or months later the set goes up and I get sales... or I don't. If I stop getting sales, I'm dead in the water. I won't be able to produce porn anymore. This is all without me drawing any money for my own compensation.

I will gladly put clips out onto the web to drive sales - it's good marketing. But a whole set? That's pissing money. No one wants a full clip on the tube sites... it's always stolen and put there by someone.

I'm not going to give away my numbers, but let's hypothetically say it costs me $500 to produce a set (it doesn't but it should illustrate the point). I put that $500 clip onto a tube website in hopes of driving traffic. If I put that up on a tube for free, I need to get 34 signups at $14.99 (my website's monthly rate) to make back that money. My website converts at 1 in 300 - that means for every 300 folks who visit www.wendysummers.com, 1 signs up. So I need 10,200 folks to see that clip and come to my website to get the 34 signups I need. Looking at tube sites, their top promoted shemale clips are at 100,000 views. There's no way that 10% of the folks who watch a FREE full-length video will join my website.

Maybe 0.5% might, but that's all of 1.7 memberships... no where near the 34 necessary to break even, forget about me covering overhead like credit card fees, hosting fees, etc.

The tube websites make money because they (or surrogates) steal my content and use it to sell things like webcams, sexual enhancers and sex toys.

Every time you use a tube website like that, you are helping to ensure me and many other hard working performers will not be able to make any more porn. I beg you, please stop... I LIKE making porn and would love to do it for a long time coming. But if I can't even breakeven on production costs, I can't do it.

I agree with this whether it's adult or non adult films or tv shows I try to avoid tube or torrent sites since you are essentially taking money out of performers pockets. The only exceptions I make are for older films which I am 99% certain the performers,directors etc literally anyone who helped make it would be seeing 0 dollars if I purchased through legal means or tv shows from other countries that there are literally no other ways to watch other then through torrents.

[NightmareX0666]

Who's that chick in your avatar - her crossed eyes are hot...

Ok on to serious shit...

Tube websites featuring full length clips are evil... here's why

I'm an Independent transsexual porn producer. Any porn I shoot, it costs me. Before I can even hope to sell it, I need to pay for the folks working on it - the person behind the camera and any other talent working with me. I have to pay for a location where we can shoot; I need to pay for any unusual set pieces, props or costumes. Then a few weeks or months later the set goes up and I get sales... or I don't. If I stop getting sales, I'm dead in the water. I won't be able to produce porn anymore. This is all without me drawing any money for my own compensation.

I will gladly put clips out onto the web to drive sales - it's good marketing. But a whole set? That's pissing money. No one wants a full clip on the tube sites... it's always stolen and put there by someone.

I'm not going to give away my numbers, but let's hypothetically say it costs me $500 to produce a set (it doesn't but it should illustrate the point). I put that $500 clip onto a tube website in hopes of driving traffic. If I put that up on a tube for free, I need to get 34 signups at $14.99 (my website's monthly rate) to make back that money. My website converts at 1 in 300 - that means for every 300 folks who visit www.wendysummers.com, 1 signs up. So I need 10,200 folks to see that clip and come to my website to get the 34 signups I need. Looking at tube sites, their top promoted shemale clips are at 100,000 views. There's no way that 10% of the folks who watch a FREE full-length video will join my website.

Maybe 0.5% might, but that's all of 1.7 memberships... no where near the 34 necessary to break even, forget about me covering overhead like credit card fees, hosting fees, etc.

The tube websites make money because they (or surrogates) steal my content and use it to sell things like webcams, sexual enhancers and sex toys.

Every time you use a tube website like that, you are helping to ensure me and many other hard working performers will not be able to make any more porn. I beg you, please stop... I LIKE making porn and would love to do it for a long time coming. But if I can't even breakeven on production costs, I can't do it.

Thank-you Wendy for explaining how it works out. I have been guilty of just watching a tube website and never thinking of how it does financially hurt the performers and all involved.