The "BOTTOM" line...

[RallyCola]

no...i don't see sexual tension...i just realized (and pointed out pages ago) that this argument is moot because neither of you will budge and try to see each other's POV to make this any sort of an exchange of ideas. you are both so dug in AND equally dismissive of each other that it is pointless.

so...my solution is for you to blow each other because that is as outlandish as any real resolution here.

plus, it seems like you need some dick anyway.

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

no...i don't see sexual tension...i just realized (and pointed out pages ago) that this argument is moot because neither of you will budge and try to see each other's POV to make this any sort of an exchange of ideas. you are both so dug in AND equally dismissive of each other that it is pointless.

so...my solution is for you to blow each other because that is as outlandish as any real resolution here.

plus, it seems like you need some dick anyway.

Have a care Jr.

With your kunt like back handed comments it's apparent that you could use a double dose of double penetration yourself.

For some one with no dog in this fight the built up resentment and animosity is visually comming apart at the seams. So maybe you could show Bella where you got your vagina and all will be well in the world.

[RallyCola]

Have a care Jr.

With your kunt like back handed comments it's apparent that you could use a double dose of double penetration yourself.

For some one with no dog in this fight the built up resentment and animosity is visually comming apart at the seams. So maybe you could show Bella where you got your vagina and all will be well in the world.

and there it is. the inability to form a coherent argument then turns into personal attacks.

i hold no resentment and animosity. there is only one truth and i point it out on a near constant basis...this is a porn forum that we all come to for a bit of banter and entertainment. i've been on this board and will argue because its fun and i'm bored while sitting here waiting for the next step in an assay. that is all.

i have very definite opinions that oppose yours and bella's in this thread, so if you wish to see that as me trying to appear moderate, that's fine...it speaks to your intelligence for not understanding what i say. you are both wrong and i am right. but that doesn't matter because to you, bella and I are functional retards and you are right...but that doesn't matter because to bella, you and I are raging queers and she is right. that's what makes it fun because i'm just sitting at my desk, exercising my fingers trying to pass the time, not taking myself that seriously but knowing that all i have to do is dissent a bit and i'll send the likes of you and others off on tirades.

so reply if you will...insult and deride me or ignore me...the fact remains that our opinions are our own and remain utterly meaningless since we are not friends and will likely never encounter each other except on this forum we both joined because we like porn.

[Chase_Mcthirsty]

and there it is. the inability to form a coherent argument then turns into personal attacks.

i hold no resentment and animosity. there is only one truth and i point it out on a near constant basis...this is a porn forum that we all come to for a bit of banter and entertainment. i've been on this board and will argue because its fun and i'm bored while sitting here waiting for the next step in an assay. that is all.

i have very definite opinions that oppose yours and bella's in this thread, so if you wish to see that as me trying to appear moderate, that's fine...it speaks to your intelligence for not understanding what i say. you are both wrong and i am right. but that doesn't matter because to you, bella and I are functional retards and you are right...but that doesn't matter because to bella, you and I are raging queers and she is right. that's what makes it fun because i'm just sitting at my desk, exercising my fingers trying to pass the time, not taking myself that seriously but knowing that all i have to do is dissent a bit and i'll send the likes of you and others off on tirades.

so reply if you will...insult and deride me or ignore me...the fact remains that our opinions are our own and remain utterly meaningless since we are not friends and will likely never encounter each other except on this forum we both joined because we like porn.

Save that BS because your stock has plummeted in here.

You know me and her don't like each other so why even make that 69 comment in the first place...?

Anyone with half a brain knows when they're being insulted so don't insult my intelligence any further.

If you know this is a porn site full of escorts than why the hell are you lecturing about fine dining on gag threads?

You can't bs a bull shitter Son.

Making snide comments on one hand all while playing the passive good guy role the next doesn't sit to well with me. At least Bella doesn't sugar coat her feelings or intentions.

Maybe you should be nice...she might donate you her balls.

[RallyCola]

Save that BS because your stock has plummeted in here.

You know me and her don't like each other so why even make that 69 comment in the first place...?

Anyone with half a brain knows when they're being insulted so don't insult my intelligence any further.

If you know this is a porn site full of escorts than why the hell are you lecturing about fine dining on gag threads?

You can't bs a bull shitter Son.

Making snide comments on one hand all while playing the passive good guy role the next doesn't sit to well with me. At least Bella doesn't sugar coat her feelings or intentions.

Maybe you should be nice...she might donate you her balls.

oh silly man.

1...the frequent posters of this forum know exactly what the expect from me. my stock is the same as it has always been.

2...i made the 69 comment TO BE INSULTING AND INCITE the both of you. that's me stirring the pot. see #1 for what to expect from me and my stock value again.

3...the good guy role...maybe you should see some of the other threads as evidence...i'm almost always arguing with someone. i'm not a nice guy...i'm an incredible asshole. you would know this if you read other threads where the issues you brought up in this thread have been discussed at length. you have brought no new ideas or opinions forward (neither have i) as you have just regurgitated others have posted about countless times. this "bottom" line thread is a near constant debate on this site. please don't think that you are novel in any way because you are not special. you are not thoughtful. you are just like many others before you, hemming and hawing about a debate that will never be settled (and so am i). the difference is that i'm having fun with this while you feel insulted.

4...also you really should stop bring bella back up. at this point, her opinion is irrelevant because you and i are now discussing the intent behind our discussion. the present state of our conversation as nothing to do with labels or bella's opinion...it has to do with the fact that i am insulting your intelligence purposefully because it is clear that you have fragile ego and couldn't see that i was doing that pages ago.

[BellaBellucci]

no...i don't see sexual tension...i just realized (and pointed out pages ago) that this argument is moot because neither of you will budge and try to see each other's POV to make this any sort of an exchange of ideas. you are both so dug in AND equally dismissive of each other that it is pointless.

Wrong. I've seen it from his point of view countless times and every time I make an exception and attempt to date someone whom I suspect is only attracted to penis, I regret it. I guarantee you that the number of men who want to bottom greatly outnumber the women willing to top, and I believe that that is the source of his frustration here. The bottom line is that this is a supply and demand issue. There's fewer of us (transsexuals) that there are of you (trans-attracted men), and so threatening us with the possibility of being alone if we don't accept those who only want us for dick is a logical fallacy.

And what does the OP try to do about it? He tries to invalidate our feelings about ourselves. He threatens that, ostensibly, if we don't love our penises, that we'll never find good men. My argument is that any man who would love us simply because we have penises are not good men in the first place.

I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever date a bottom man. Again, I didn't go through all of this transitional experience just to play the male role. For those that want to and the men that love them, more power to them, but it's inappropriate, even bullyish, for the OP to conclude that only tops deserve love because the rest of us supposedly hate ourselves. We don't hate ourselves. We hate that so many men only love one thing about us and the OP is still not even arguing that very important point.

Girls, don't believe they hype. There's always someone out there who will love you for you. Ignore this self-centered asshole and his manipulative, subjective opinions. You don't need him or his kind to be complete, and you don't have to love your penis. To do so or not is entirely your choice, but to be fair, those of who don't (or in my case, have only begrudgingly accepted a temporary situation), are those that will find men (and women) who love us for the complete people that you are.

If someone focuses on your penis, it's all they'll ever want from you.

~BB~