The "BOTTOM" line...

[loveboof]

if you have a cock and suck a cock, that is and always will be a homosexual act.

that you engage in sexual acts of pleasure that are defined as homosexual does not make you a homosexual.

How does that help clarify things? lol

Some things can be defined as homosexual acts, but engaging in 'an homosexual act' does not necessarily make you gay?

Is that what you're adding to the discussion? :P
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Kinda depends on the guys reasons on why he's attracted to me and how he really sees me.I've def been with guys and you can tell it was more about the dick.there was no attention payed to the feminine areas of my body or attributes.to me that's a bit gay-ish
I also been with guys who payed attention to my totality as a woman and that's always great.even if they may show some attention to my cock they're still straight cause I'm not a man.I'm a woman.

Well fair enough. I can't imagine anyone not wanting to play with your 'feminine areas' tho! lol
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Any guy sucking, taking or fantasizing of a masculine/cock is NOT straight. Don't come up with this bs to TS's "but am straight" No, you aren't. Either your bi, pan-sexual,confuse, or gay. Some gays also happen to like TS's, i heard stories. You guys don't fit the straight label upon straight ppl. Theres nothing feminine of a cock.

Again fair enough. So implicitly you are still a man then right? Right up until you get your SRS, then you will become a transsexual - and even then it is still homosexual for a man to have sex with you?

(I guess that's what you're telling us...) :/

[nysprod]

I think this is an issue of sexual orientation not sexual identity, but only partly so. Being attracted to a trans woman (in her entirety, mind body and soul) is not homosexual. Being attracted to the penis, making a fetish of our penis, and/or interacting sexually with our penis is a homosexual act. Ultimately there's nothing wrong with participating in homosexual activities. I call foul at the chasers which I define as a person who only has sex and/or make a fetish of transsexuals and refuse to openly date us, as you people are essentially treating us as less than human, just an object of desire. I also don't feel there is a feminine cock, there is having GRS or not, cock in and of itself is masculine.

Then by definition, your saying that any man who interacts with a TS is homosexual because interacting with one, in her entirety, means interacting with her cock.

[RallyCola]

I think this is an issue of sexual orientation not sexual identity, but only partly so. Being attracted to a trans woman (in her entirety, mind body and soul) is not homosexual. Being attracted to the penis, making a fetish of our penis, and/or interacting sexually with our penis is a homosexual act. Ultimately there's nothing wrong with participating in homosexual activities. I call foul at the chasers which I define as a person who only has sex and/or make a fetish of transsexuals and refuse to openly date us, as you people are essentially treating us as less than human, just an object of desire. I also don't feel there is a feminine cock, there is having GRS or not, cock in and of itself is masculine.

you are differentiating between sex and gender on a level that most posters (usually dudes) here do not. for most, the issue is so blurred but it should not be. identity (gender) speaks to the emotional relationship you can or are capable of having where type of sex acts engaged in should not be the defining characteristic.

i for one don't care if someone calls me straight, bi or gay because i know what i am and what i am not. why other people can't come to an understanding with their own feelings and forget the labels really shows the emotional immaturity many have.

[bluesoul]

Then by definition, your saying that any man who interacts with a TS is homosexual because interacting with one, in her entirety, means interacting with her cock.

i believe it's possible for some transsexuals not to have a penis, or not to consider their penis a part of their "real" identity... know what i mean?

[amberskyi]

genetically speaking, most people are one of xx or xy with less than 1/ 2 of a percent having klinefelter syndrome. if you are one of the latter group, then my post doesn't apply to you.

first there are females (who were born females with xy).
second.i wasnt talking about chromosomally (i dont think thats a real word lol). while true that i was born male through long term hormone use i no longer feel like my body is a male body.hormones actually do allot more than just give us boobs and makes us fat.it actually changes the way our organs and bodies function.in reaction to the hormones your whole body tries to function as close to a females as possible and the earlier one starts hormones the more drastic these changes are.when i see my doctor he has to stay aware and make sure im aware that allot of the same health issues that woman typically face are health issues i may face myself (with the exception of genital related stuff like child birth).
for example do you have to worry about mammograms in your future? i guessing no but i do.just like prostate exams arent in my future.
i think if one want to be technical.no im not female but im no longer male either.

[RallyCola]

Then by definition, your saying that any man who interacts with a TS is homosexual because interacting with one, in her entirety, means interacting with her cock.

i don't see that at all in Remy's post.

you are reading too much into it.

homosexual sex acts are are very significant part of defining a homosexual identity but not the only thing. you are neglecting the emotional and social constructs involved with your orientation and preference.

let me ask you this question...nysprod...if you were kissing Remy or JP or any transwoman, JUST KISSING....are you kissing a) a man, b) a woman, c) a female or d) a male?

[jamiethewild]

Most of you guys are Bisexual....

You guys, stop arguing for something you know deep down what you are or discover to be.

Any confident straight men wouldn't be ranting like many of you guys are...

[amberskyi]

Well fair enough. I can't imagine anyone not wanting to play with your 'feminine areas' tho! lol

it happens quite allot.especially with clients but i dont judge,i just take their money lol

[RallyCola]

first there are females (who were born females with xy).
second.i wasnt talking about chromosomally (i dont think thats a real word lol). while true that i was born male through long term hormone use i no longer feel like my body is a male body.hormones actually do allot more than just give us boobs and makes us fat.it actually changes the way our organs and bodies function.in reaction to the hormones your whole body tries to function as close to a females as possible and the earlier one starts hormones the more drastic these changes are.when i see my doctor he has to stay aware and make sure im aware that allot of the same health issues that woman typically face are health issues i may face myself (with the exception of genital related stuff like child birth).
for example do you have to worry about mammograms in your future? i guessing no but i do.just like prostate exams arent in my future.

your argument, while not incorrect about the results of hormonal treatments, really isn't what makes you a woman. it is just part of it. the psychological basis of being a woman is not rooted in mammograms and prostate exams. your primary sex is genetically determined and cannot be altered which is what i was addressing. we are just talking about different things.

a woman (the cultural, social and emotional), regardless of how she got there, (born genetically female or through transition) is defined by a set of physical and psychological factors which usurp the idea of genetic sex.

remember, gender is largely a human concept. monkeys and dolphins and mice, etc don't have this concept because they are simply males or females. the most masculine and ugly giraffe will still get mounted when she is in heat by a male of her species. humans have the concept of a psychological gender that doesn't always align with genetic sex AND the capability to change gender.

[Rusty Eldora]

OK I enjoy being with Tgirls, and yes I really enjoy sucking cock and being topped as well as topping them. I also still really enjoy all sexual activities with gg's. So that puts me somewhere on the continuum between totally gay and totally straight - where specifically on that I am does not matter to me.

Do I bring up to my friends and family that I love spending time with Tgirls - haven't yet - on various escort hobby boards I have Rusty for discussing Tgirl type activities and another handle for discussing gg activities, because there are both guys and girls, even gg escorts, that will 'disown' you for TS activities.