quick way to loose weight and keep it off.

[caliuncut]

I did too but now my teeth are fucked.




Ok, so you're saying that scientific fact is wrong but the old Atkins diet fad is right?

I agree with you that zero sugar is the way forward because it's sugar that makes us fat, not the fat content of food. As you pointed out, fruit is very sugary and so much of our food now has sugar in it as a preservative that anything sugary should be avoided.

However low carbs isn't healthy. Cutting carb quantity is sensible but the body needs carbohydrates in order to retain water and remain hydrated. If you cut carbs and sugar but take in 4000 calories a day you'll still get fat and that's an absolute fact. I've always had eating issues but was 110 pounds (dangerously underweight) for years despite eating a carb heavy diet.

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That's funny - You say that Atkins is a fad and in the very next sentence agree with the most fundamental concept of Atkins.

As you said, yes fat in food does NOT make you fat, it is sugar which is the ultimate culprit. Next you must understand that carbohydrates are instantly turned into glucose/sugar once ingested (especially unrefined carbs, but even complex carbs as well). Once you realize there is no difference between sugar and carbs in the context of how your body stores it you are on the road to understanding why you are fat.

It goes against the grain to believe fat doesn't make you fat, but its true.

Here's a few more thoughts:

-carbs and sugar are the cause of heart disease, not cholesterol or fat. People commonly refer to "good" and "bad" cholesterol, this is a false over simplification. Cholesterol is actually a good and necessary repair mechanism for the damages caused by inflammation and excess levels of triglycerides. Hence, heart disease is caused by the exact products you see the American Heart Associations seal of approval on, they get a lot of money for those seals of approval's slapped on the Special K box don't you know. So they lie to you, make you sick while claiming the opposite. (there is so much more to this, but I'm at work and feel I'm already rambling)

-Why do traditional diets work if lowcarb is the solution?- what do you do when you diet? You cut out sodas, chips, cookies, cakes, pizza, etc. Those are all carbs/sugar. The average American diet is overloaded with sugar and carbs and by default this is what gets cut out on a diet and people see results without really understanding the underlying science. The problem is in addition to this they cut out all fats and oils thinking that's really the culprit plus they reduce caloric intake to ridiculous levels and they obviously get sick, feel like shit and fail. They then binge and go back to their normal diet and balloon back up. Whereby if you ate as much as you want within reason and felt full, ate fats and protein but laid off carbs and sugar you will feel satiated and continue to lose weight.

-Lastly as a follow up to the end of the last point and in response to Rabbiteyes and iluv: Yes, calorie deficits are bullshit. The reason for this is that every calorie is not treated the same by your body. Excess carbs(glucose) are stored immediately as fat by our body while Fats and Proteins are not. So again, every calorie is not the same. Most people eat so many carbs that the MAJORITY of them are excess, hence they go straight to your fat cells and you get fat REGARDLESS of calorie deficit or not. Fat and Protein are not stored as fat so you can pretty much eat all you want and your body won't store it. So, it depends on WHAT you eat not HOW MUCH you eat. When I was following this diet more strictly I didn't count any calories and ate a shit ton of food and shed pounds ridiculously.

There's more to discuss that hasn't been even touched here about the carb/ insulin response and how insulin plays into locking fat into you so it cannot be released from the fat cells holding them.

Lastly something you guys can scratch your heads at, a paraphrase by Dr. Taubes which is so painfully genius "Fat people are not fat because they eat too much, they eat too much because they are fat."

I would be most willing to mail anyone a copy of his book to read, granted you promise to send it back to me =)

[caliuncut]

I can't believe how long I just took to type that up, I hope people read it and provide their thoughts.

'ere me now, wagwon...booyakasha!!

[MrsKellyPierce]

Do you take laxatives too? Sounds like a detox diet..

[Dino Velvet]

The only bumps I like are those tucked inside a tight pair of panties!

Like these.....

Well you're in great enough shape that I'm sure you pull the plug out often enough to allow the torrent of waste to flow downstream. Ever forget to remove it and you just thought you drank too much milk?

[caliuncut]

Do you take laxatives too? Sounds like a detox diet..

Was that question for me?

No I don't take laxatives..lol. If you're responding to me, what part sounds like a detox?

Detox's can be good too, I've done a few.

[Kire89]

Until such a time as empirical evidence is presented, detox is snake oil.