The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

[martin48]

16,808,538 applications to buy guns in the US as monitored by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. If they are all approved it would be enough weapons to arm every member of Nato’s armed forces five times over.
Who says the US is not obsessed with guns?

[martin48]

Michael Moore article worth reading!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michae...?utm_hp_ref=tw


Enjoy!

[Odelay]

Last year the TSA found approximately 400 passengers attempting to board planes with guns. The passengers all claimed they had forgotten they were secretly carrying. This year the number is 1500 guns! Of those 170 were not only loaded but had a round in the chamber. This nonsense has got to stop.

Speaking of having a round in the chamber, here's a story where a guy managed to lose his gun in a theatre, loaded and with the safety off, although he claims the safety was on before it accidentally slipped from his holster. Seriously, lack of gun safety amongst gun users is giving the entire community a giant black eye.

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-no...pologizes.html

[buttslinger]

My friend's older brother was target shooting at his country home, and he shot himself in the leg with an old Army .45...With the safety on.It was a bad wound and he had to crawl all the way back to the house. The cop who came with the ambulance accidentally shot the gun in the house, again, with the safety on.

I am too lazy to look up the data, but I'd take a wild guess that the US has so many shootings is because the US has so many guns.

The Romans used to say the people will never interfere in politics as long as they have bread and circuses. Guns are an illusion of power.

[559alphadog]

I dont mind open carry, i served 6 years as an armorer and weapons instructor, majority of accidents r do to to poorly maintaned weapons maintinance or people who never received proper training and safety classes. I beleive taking away our 2nd amendment will inly bring us closer to becoming a socialist goverment, however i agree that thete r that 1% like in evetything else that shouldnt own a firearm due mental reasons. I own a small armory, ive trained thousands of sailors and soldiers and i know irst hand that people kill innocents not guns.

[buttslinger]

The US Government recognizes that guns are dangerous, they offer a 20 year retirement to those who sometimes carry a firearm, instead of 30. The Armed Forces, Police, Postal Inspectors, Secret Service, etc. turn down many applicants they deem mentally, morally, or emotionally unfit to carry a gun. I'm not sure what percentage. Yet it is totally legal for them to personally buy as many guns as they want.

[trish]

Who says, "Guns don't kill people..."? In the case of homicides, no coroner ever pronounced a human being to be an immediate cause of death nor the underlying cause of death. The reported underlying cause may refer to arteries torn or severed by penetration wounds, blockages caused by lodged projectiles etc.

Bullets are the underlying cause of death in approximately 70% of the homicides in the U.S. Those bullets were fired with guns. Yes, those guns were fired by murderers. Yet as the availability of high tech firearms increases, those murderers have become more efficient: even though firearm related crime in the U.S. is high, the nonfatal firearm-related crime is down.

[Stavros]

If you want to be purist about it, it is the consequence of a bullet at high velocity tearing through human flesh and damaging the vessels, cells, veins, bones etc inside the human body rather than the bullet itself that kills. People who die from malaria often die from liver failure which is a typical consequence of being bitten by a malarial mosquito.

The idea that guns dont kill people, people do is one of the strangest I have heard. Even if it were true the riposte would be -then don't give people guns! But I do understand that if someone was not motivated to pull a trigger the trigger would not be pulled, but this only ducks out the core question -why do people kill?

[broncofan]

If you want to be purist about it, it is the consequence of a bullet at high velocity tearing through human flesh and damaging the vessels, cells, veins, bones etc inside the human body rather than the bullet itself that kills. People who die from malaria often die from liver failure which is a typical consequence of being bitten by a malarial mosquito.

The idea that guns dont kill people, people do is one of the strangest I have heard. Even if it were true the riposte would be -then don't give people guns! But I do understand that if someone was not motivated to pull a trigger the trigger would not be pulled, but this only ducks out the core question -why do people kill?

And why when it's easy to kill are people so likely to do it? Could the average person be a killer if you reduce the effort required to kill and make the deliberative process prior to killing ever shorter? What if people could kill by desiring it at one point in time and the action could be completed just by generating a thought? Who amongst us may have killed if only we had a gun in our hand at our angriest, least controlled moment?

[broncofan]

Advocates of free speech often decry the attempt to punish thought crimes. They say individuals should not be prosecuted for thinking nasty things or saying nasty things. This is true because we all recognize the distinction between thinking and acting. For this reason the criminal law requires both thought and action, because we can't be entirely sure that thoughts are "willed"; does the process of generating them not feel spontaneous sometimes? It is the combination of thought and action that brings culpability which is based partially on the recognition that the actor had a chance to not have done what he did.

It is with guns and high-tech weaponry that the line between thought and action is blurred. When you hold a loaded gun, the action required to kill is a slight movement of the index finger against a slight pressure. This requires intent, but the specific intent is to move your index finger with the knowledge that it will discharge a bullet and kill someone. With such a simple movement putting into motion an act with such permanent consequences, is it not predictable that we hear murderers complain that they just weren't thinking? In truth, they were doing little more than thinking.