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    Default Re: The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    The gun culture, in part, is based on a lot of men [it's mostly men] being terrified of their government.
    And, too, racism. As both Chris Hedges and Michael Moore pointed out: it's white people [again, mostly males] being terrified of blacks....
    Now, you can agree or disagree with both Hedges and Moore.
    Again, I'm not opposed to people owning guns. I don't see the problem with someone owning a shotgun and hunting.
    Or even, say, target shooting.
    I'm not a gun owner. Never have been.... I don't feel I need it for protection. That's what the police are for....
    Castle Rock v. Gonzales and other court cases don't agree with your idea that the police is your protection.



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    The Gun Lobby is about MONEY, it's not really about the second ammendment, or freedom, or Iwo Jima.
    It's like Advertising, you spend some money so you can get back a whole lot more money in return, and just like Budweiser has lots of scantily clad buxom women in their ads, to grab that twenty-year-old-not set in their ways yet- demographic, the gun lobby plays to the dim-witted Fox News crowd waving the American Flag all over the place crowd. Stirring them up using Madison Avenue types who make a living finding out what makes people buy something, or vote for somebody, or even what jury will get somebody out of jail for the rest of their life.

    Guns have a rich historical history, I used to get off reading SHOTGUN NEWS, and I don't believe people kill people, I believe STUPID people kill people. Fighting Corporate America to the death over money in politics is a good fight. Even the US Supreme Court is owned by the Military-Industrial Complex!!!!Yes, trickle-down is bullshit, but somebody else signs my paycheck, and to a large extent, if you're working for a living, you're taking what they're giving.


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    Default Re: The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

    The NRA is pushing for colleges and universities to allow students to carry guns. Not a good idea.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/13/us...?smid=pl-share


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    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Default Re: The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

    It might have made all the difference at Kent State back in the 1970s though....
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    Default Re: The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

    In what way may I ask?



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    Foolishly casual response by me S... but the students might have shot back at the National Guard... or should i call em "Campus Bums" like the late unlamented VP at the time.



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    Default Re: The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

    They might have (and compounded the tragedy), but they would not have. They were the kids poking daisies stems into guardsmen's gun barrels.


    "...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.

    "...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.

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    Default Re: The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

    Indeed they were... or at best waving anti-war banners, as i recall (I think the flower power thing was a couple of years before).



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    Originally the back cover of American Beauty was to have a picture of the Grateful Dead carrying guns like cowboys. (At the time, they considered themselves to be much like wild-west outlaws.)
    But Robert Hunter vetoed it.
    He said:
    "When American Beauty came out, there was a photograph to go on the back which showed the band with pistols. They were getting into guns at the time, going over to Mickey's ranch, target shooting...they were just enjoying shooting pistols. (For example, we got a gold record and went and shot it up.)
    I saw that photo, and that was one of the few times I ever really asserted myself with the band and said 'No - no picture of the band with guns on the back cover.' These were incendiary and revolutionary times, and I did not want this band to be making that statement. I wanted us to counter the rousing violence of that time. I knew that we had a tool to do it, and we just didn't dare go the other way."
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    Default Re: The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

    New NRA ad.

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/n...0FGQw--;_ylv=3

    or try this:
    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/n...-politics.html

    It's all about fear. Control through fear.

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