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    Quote Originally Posted by Ts RedVeX View Post
    If you want less crime then bring back teaching the values that used to make our civilisation great to kids at schools, cut the bureaucracy that we have all become slaves of.
    Would that be values like respect for the truth? When exactly was this golden age when people were safe because of values? Murder rates across the developed world are lower than they have been for most of history when religion had a much bigger role. https://ourworldindata.org/homicides/
    All that teaching of the ten commandments did not stop people from killing one another. And how do values explain why the murder rate in the USA is way higher than in any other developed country?



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    What I want to know is why did Trump blame the mass shooting on "a mental health problem"...after signing a bill earlier this year that rolled back a regulation making it harder for people with mental illnesses to buy firearms?


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    Quote Originally Posted by blackchubby38 View Post
    Texas church attack the latest US mass shooting
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    Law enforcement officials work the scene of a fatal shooting at the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, on Sunday, Nov. 5, 2017. (Nick Wagner/Austin American-Statesman via AP)
    A man opened fire on a church in South Texas on Sunday, killing several people and wounding others.
    Was it MrFanti? He hasn't commented since it happened?



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    Interesting article from The Washington Post explores some popular myths about guns and gun violence based on the recent release of the results of the most comprehensive study to date .
    One finding that struck me (no pun) is that gun violence increased by 13% to 15% over 10 years in states that passed 'right to carry' laws . And in zero instances did citizens carrying guns intervene in shootings in progress. One of the arguments in passing such laws was that an armed citizenry would lead to increased public safety.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/outloo...=.81da4a17486f


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    I remember someone asking for the paradigm which made our civilisation the greatest.. None of us actually lived in the times, as those ended in the 16th for Poland and 17th century century for the UK, if not earlier, but some of the values that come to mind are:

    - honesty
    - freedom
    - inequality
    - family
    - individuality
    - respect
    - (inherited) monarchy
    - patriotism
    - Christianity

    in more less that order. I would like hear from the Americans, as they might remember more from their much shorter history and I think their countries only began falling in the 18th or even the 19th century.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ts RedVeX View Post
    I remember someone asking for the paradigm which made our civilisation the greatest.. None of us actually lived in the times, as those ended in the 16th for Poland and 17th century century for the UK, if not earlier, but some of the values that come to mind are:
    .
    Another puzzling post. When, in 17th century England did 'Civilization' come to an end? Was it 1653? Was it 1660? Was it 1668? Was it the death of William Shakespeare in 1616?
    Is there some other date you want to identify?
    Which version of 'Christianity' in England are you referring to, Protestant Christianity, or the Roman Catholic version?



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    Someone asked someone for a paradigm and the answer was this silly list?! Why should I give someone’s report of someone’s list any credence or notice especially since the someone who just posted it has shown herself to be somewhat deficient in the first, fifth and ninth items listed?


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    RedVex, your last post was at 10:49am.

    That’s way too early to be on the Meth.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ts RedVeX View Post
    I remember someone asking for the paradigm which made our civilisation the greatest.. None of us actually lived in the times, as those ended in the 16th for Poland and 17th century century for the UK, if not earlier.
    The question I actually asked was when was the 'golden age' when people were safe because of values, as you claimed in an earlier post? It's clear from the link I already posted that the murder rate in up to the 17th century was higher it it has been since then (ie people were not safer in the era of absolute monarchy that seems to be your ideal). https://ourworldindata.org/homicides/



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    Someone had to....





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