The FAST Approaching Gun Ban

[Laphroaig]

Trish, I agree that there's a degree of "apples and oranges" when trying to compare cars to guns, but I'm glad that you picked up on my main point. Large product recalls are not only possible but happen on a fairly regular basis.

[martin48]

http://www.mystatesman.com/news/news...e-gun-c/npDBy/

Does this help with previous discussions of banning both cars and guns?

[trish]

Thanksgiving week in the U.S. of A.

Nine injured, three murdered as gunman, shoots up a planned parenthood in Colorado Springs. Says he was riled up listening to Fox News.

At a Waffle House in Biloxi, exercising his Louisiana given right to carry lit up a cigarette. When he was informed by the waitress that Waffle House has a policy against smoking he pulled out his 33mm and shot her dead.

A volunteer guard at an Oklahoma "Muslim-Free" gun-store shot himself in the foot.

These are just the highlights.

Ahh, the price of sweet liberty.

[martin48]

God Help America

[trish]

http://nyti.ms/1XtuYke

[Laphroaig]

Guns with history...

[Laphroaig]

“They might have guns, but we have flowers”

[martin48]

Get angry, get even

Mass shooting left 14 people dead at a social services centre

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-34991855

[broncofan]

Because of political pragmatism I have only once or twice stated my own views on guns. Personally I think it is pretty rare that an armed person would ever be in a position to stop a massacre unless that is their profession (armed security, police officer etc). I think it is also pretty rare that someone will stop a home intruder with a gun. In my view, if we did not have a second amendment and we made gun ownership an onerous process with a strict licensing requirement, these acts would be pretty rare.

I do interpret the second amendment as protecting the right of individuals to own weapons subject to few limitations. I'm just not sure that's a good thing. If guns were contraband, and someone with a screw loose would have to go through weeks of training and certification to own one, we'd save thousands of lives I think. Yes there would still be a black market for weapons, but I am not sure our lawful armed citizens are putting a stop to much criminal activity through vigilantism or even self-defense.

I've actually stated this before, but I feel a bit dishonest pretending that I actually think incremental change is all we should desire...personally I think we should desire a lot more, but will achieve a lot less.

[buttslinger]

So what did we learn from the Berdoo Masacree?
Do not buy your ethnic friend a gun if he asks you.
If you do shoot up a Christmas party, have an escape plan. Don't drive home.