TV vs TS

[sophiebendable]

The OP is postulating that TS dating sites themselves or users (or some higher authority) should have the all-knowing capabilities of separating out the TS (for the purposes of this conversation, defined by Amberski as those who FEEL the are women and have felt that way for the majority of their lives) population from the TV (defined as those dressing in women's clothing out of pure sexual thrill) population ending up in crystal clear search results.

Oh, that is not how I interpreted that at all. And yeah, it would be pretty fucked up. I guess I haven't checked out many transgender dating sites, but I assumed TG people could check a box saying TS or TV and he was just saying that admirers should be able to search based on that criterion. I was thinking about sites like Craigslist and Eros that do just lump us all together.

[GroobyKrissy]

Oh, that is not how I interpreted that at all. And yeah, it would be pretty fucked up. I guess I haven't checked out many transgender dating sites, but I assumed TG people could check a box saying TS or TV and he was just saying that admirers should be able to search based on that criterion. I was thinking about sites like Craigslist and Eros that do just lump us all together.

Well, I would admit, I am making some assumptions about the original post as well, which I also admit, is open to a lot of speculation. That is why I felt it wasn't worded well. I am taking the OP at his word that "dating site" means "dating site" not "escort site".

I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree that a dedicated ESCORT SITE should have some sort of process in place to separate the two, for the safety of the escorts more than anything.

Perhaps, I am just old fashioned or not hip enough to know that "dating site" is code for "escort site".

[sophiebendable]

Well, I would admit, I am making some assumptions about the original post as well, which I also admit, is open to a lot of speculation. That is why I felt it wasn't worded well. I am taking the OP at his word that "dating site" means "dating site" not "escort site".

I would WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree that a dedicated ESCORT SITE should have some sort of process in place to separate the two, for the safety of the escorts more than anything.

Perhaps, I am just old fashioned or not hip enough to know that "dating site" is code for "escort site".

Well *technically* Craigslist is for dating since they closed down the "erotic services" section and it does seem like about half of the t4m ads use it that way.

[GroobyKrissy]

Well *technically* Craigslist is for dating since they closed down the "erotic services" section and it does seem like about half of the t4m ads use it that way.

*sigh*

Those were the days. I think CL paid for college

[innocentbychoice]

Hi Girls (in the specifically gender sense!),

I've been searching through some general dating sites and when searching I am constantly seeing fat, old men results that I really don't want to see when I am seeking totally hot, rich, perfect men.

Similarly, some guys only like girls who will, like, take care of them sexually, and so a massive flaw continues to exist in the websites.

Who finds this an issue? Who thinks this should not be an issue?

I have very particular tastes and if I didn't have to waste my time being propositioned by blatantly unsuitable prospects, I'd probably be married and be living the perfect life by now.

For the purposes of [sic] superceding discussion, I understand a person who describes himself as a "man" to be height and weight proportionate, with a full head of hair, plenty of muscles, and of course, rich. Others need not apply.

OK... doesn't the above sound totally vapid and self-absorbed?

Did you ever once stop to think that you're not the only person using said sites?

Did you ever think that just perhaps other people like variety or have other tastes than you?

How about taking into consideration that these are PEOPLE that you're talking about and dismissing out-of-hand.

Denial forthcoming, but I'm sure plenty of people have looked at your profile and dismissed it right away or had a chuckle or two at your expense.

It takes all kinds to make the world go around.

My thoughts.

That was awesome.

[innocentbychoice]

Of course you don't... because I do.

What you're saying is COMPLETELY inaccurate. First, his opinion IS being respected... it is just being discussed. I don't get this whole sentiment that if you disagree with someone and want to discuss a point, that means you don't respect the person's opinion. It is this whole, "Ooh... let's not offend anyone" sentiment that seems to pervading society these days. Anyway...

Your second part is inaccurate... as is your definition (it seems to vary by location, etc.). But, for the sake of argument, I'll give it to you.

I'm just going to say this because it is true: You could be as 'TS' as 'TS' should be (whatever that means), but if you don't LOOK the part (i.e. - you don't 'PASS'), you'll basically be labeled as a CD/TV, especially if you're older, not a snappy dresser, or have some other distinguishable feature that is overtly 'manly'.

What you're not allowing for here, is crossover... WHICH EXISTS... for a variety of different reasons, some of which were already mentioned. The point is, from a dating site profile (which I believe was the OP's original wording), you can HARDLY make the snap distinction that a person is a CD/TV or a TS, for the simple fact that being TS is not based on looks AT ALL, nor can you accurately assess the person's motives and determination to "transition".

Now, I will concede this point: Obviously, there are people, like you say, who dress up just for fun. I'm not talking about those people or people who understand the terms and state their profile accurately.

But, life is just not that black and white. It has been proven time and time again that the general "TS" community (such as yourself) is unwilling to concede the point that crossover exists from the CD/TV/old/fat/don't-look-the-part/confused/can't transition for whatever reason side. I think that is sad.

Very well put. I'm liking the way you express your ideas Krissy.

[GroobyKrissy]

Very well put. I'm liking the way you express your ideas Krissy.

Thanks, Hon. I've been out walking in the storm that we're having here in Portland and clearing my head I am soaked to the bone now Time for a nice, long bath

[tsmounting]

That's really opened my eyes to the different and often conflicting issues of categorisation for the purpose of an effective search function and 'labelling' for women 'in transition' or fully transitioned women who will never 'PASS' but need an environment of acceptance where they can live as they feel without judegment etc.
My personal preference does not reflect any broader views on what is more or less desirable/good, it's just what I like which is obviously different to other people and so my 'OP' was just to do with what general opinions were on improving website search functions for individual tastes, not value-judgments or semantics.
Anyway, please keep your opinions coming and happy rimming people.

[GroobyKrissy]

That's really opened my eyes to the different and often conflicting issues of categorisation for the purpose of an effective search function and 'labelling' for women 'in transition' or fully transitioned women who will never 'PASS' but need an environment of acceptance where they can live as they feel without judegment etc.
My personal preference does not reflect any broader views on what is more or less desirable/good, it's just what I like which is obviously different to other people and so my 'OP' was just to do with what general opinions were on improving website search functions for individual tastes, not value-judgments or semantics.
Anyway, please keep your opinions coming and happy rimming people.

You sound like a very decent Bloke who just articulated something a little bit inartfully. As I stated in my second reply to you, you're certainly not the first, and most definitely not going to be the last.

I hope you understand that I wasn't attacking your personally with my points and I actually agree that, in a perfect world, everyone would fit into nice, neat categories on TS-related dating sites so in search functions, each Charming would immediately find his Snow White. Unfortunately, as long as human nature exists, that won't ever happen.

I appreciate your willingness to be open-minded and I hope you will continue to post as reading through your threads has been entertaining.