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    Both sides of the isle are run fucking morons backed by deep pocket special interests. Stop trying to claim one side to be holier than thou.


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    There's only one side that's against teaching evolution and climate science. Only one side that wants to force women to have transvaginal ultrasound probes if they seek an abortion, only one party that thinks some sort of Middle Eastern god defined marriage for everyone. Only one party that voted against extending aid to New Jersey when it was struck by one of the worst hurricanes in a decade. Just look at the clowns that ran in the presidential primary. You guys are NUTS!


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    Quote Originally Posted by trish View Post
    There's only one side that's against teaching evolution and climate science. Only one side that wants to force women to have transvaginal ultrasound probes if they seek an abortion, only one party that thinks some sort of Middle Eastern god defined marriage for everyone. Only one party that voted against extending aid to New Jersey when it was struck by one of the worst hurricanes in a decade. Just look at the clowns that ran in the presidential primary. You guys are NUTS!


    Succinctly put... it could have been a much longer litany



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    Ok, so you just proved that your a left wing hack and any civil discussion will go haywire. I don't trust either side despite their intentions.

    But if bowing down to a political party helps you sleep at night, so be it. Just don't expect that reciting talking points will make you sound intelligent.



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    Except that eccentric is a GOP guy and isn't admitting it. I noticed the complaints about the mainstream media and race-baiting in the other thread. Then there were the complaints about the federal reserve needing to be audited. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, then it's a duck. You say both sides are problematic because it's the only way you can sound reasonable.

    There are also some arguments that sound so preposterous on their face that you know where they're coming from. For instance, when someone says "race card" or "race-bait" instead of saying they don't think there's adequate evidence to support a charge of racism, it sounds intellectually lazy. But it's little phrases like this that sort of reveal political allegiances to anyone who pays attention. Not too many Democrats are going to hear the subject of race and racism discussed intelligently and say, "what, are you playing the race card?".

    The argument about the federal reserve is also an argument we hear from certain segments of the GOP. They care a lot about fiscal responsibility when recommending program cuts. They don't care about fiscal responsibility when discussing military spending. They also care a lot about the budget when discussing social security but again nothing about the budget when discussing capital gains taxes, estate taxes, or marginal tax rates.

    But maybe I'm wrong. If you're sort of a political hybrid, tell us which of your views are compatible with those of liberals.


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    When the FED is buying up bonds like there's a fire sale is going on while running QE with no end in sight thus reducing the purchasing power of the dollar, it doesn't matter what your political affiliation is because history & economic fundamentals easily tell you the upcoming results.

    But to respond to you your point about race, I am tired of the racial divide in this nation. We focus too much about race and not enough about facts (and to what point those facts actually prove). None of us should be a victim due to the color of our skin.

    Quite frankly, I don't roll with any liberal agenda wholeheartedly. Conversely, I'm not a flag waving, war mongering bible banger either. I may be to the right of you, and to the left of another. I believe in strong state government with limited federal oversight. I'm economically conservative, yet socially liberal. Pick me apart from this response but I assure you that you won't prove much of anything.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eccentricBlue View Post

    Quite frankly, I don't roll with any liberal agenda wholeheartedly. Pick me apart from this response but I assure you that you won't prove much of anything.
    I don't really know what you mean by agendas to be honest. You say you are socially liberal, but the word agenda is attached to imply that there's an underhanded attempt to do something subversive. When liberals don't want homosexuals to be treated like outcasts, this is called the gay agenda. Wanting to have a graduated tax rate is socialism. Thinking legislation should be passed to ensure women are paid the same as men for equal work is a liberal agenda. So is vigorously enforcing the civil rights act. I think the rhetoric I hear from Republicans about liberal agendas is a sort of watered down extension of McCarthyism.

    We also hear this stuff about the mainstream media somehow distorting the news, as though the media is one giant monolith. This was the excuse we heard from Sarah Palin after she was sabotaged by Katie Couric who asked her a few softball questions expecting basic political literacy on her part. I really do wonder about some of the shit I hear from Republicans.



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    The problem with the media is many different media outlets are usually controlled by one person. We get less and less news and more and more propaganda. Investigative journalism is a thing of the past.



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    Quote Originally Posted by eccentricBlue View Post

    We focus too much about race and not enough about facts (and to what point those facts actually prove).

    I believe in strong state government with limited federal oversight.
    Two people are convicted of murder. One is African-American, the other is Caucasian. The African-American has a statistically significantly greater chance of being executed. Mind you they are both murderers. This is a fact and imo should not be ignored as it indicates at the very least unconscious bias pervading our criminal justice system.

    If you believe in strong state government, what did you think about DOMA? To me, the federal government should recognize marriages that are licensed within the respective powers of the states. I'm not trying to be mocking but this is a pretty gay agenda. It also jibes with considerations of federalism, at least with respect to section 3 of DOMA.



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    http://www.amnestyusa.org/our-work/i...nalty-and-race

    Edit: I like this amnesty article better than the one I had posted.


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