Understanding the Dynamics of TGirl Attraction: Part One

[dabaldone]

IMO the article is somewhat biased, particularly by focusing entirely on asking escorts. The experiences escorts have with the TG-loving populace is a small cross section of the larger pool of guys into us.

In this case it's a self-selected sample of those admirers who are engaging in an economic transaction to gain what they desire (ie something they can't get for free).

Even if you factor in the personal sex lives of escorts you're still looking at a very biased sample, given the pool of men willing to date them contains self selection as there are simply men who can't handle an escort as a girlfriend.

A better title for the article would be:

Understanding the Dynamics of Men who frequent TS-escorts.

Thank you thank you thank you. My point exactly. If your sample of men are based soley on "clients", the data is going to be skewed. The first two trans-women I met were not escorts. My initial attraction was I saw a woman. That's what I'm attracted to. To continue this drivel of "maleness" is absurd. This is a survey as you said od tricks who frequent escorts.

[TSLexiWade]

Thank you thank you thank you. My point exactly. If your sample of men are based soley on "clients", the data is going to be skewed. The first two trans-women I met were not escorts. My initial attraction was I saw a woman. That's what I'm attracted to. To continue this drivel of "maleness" is absurd. This is a survey as you said od tricks who frequent escorts.

When I was asked to do this interview, I was a little hesitant at first. After reading the questions and giving it MUCH thought (It took me 3 weeks to answer these questions), I feel like I gave an open minded opinion & answer to each question/topic.

I, being in a relationship AND an escort, answered the questions with an unbiased view. Not every man is attracted to transsexual women solely based on sex; perfect example would be my relationship with my boyfriend. He was here when I answered these questions & I asked for his advice before submitting my interview.

Just like everyone else, we are ALL human & not everything in life is about money & sex. By coincidence, the ladies asked [we] are indeed escorts, but we also have opinions on the topic of 'Understanding the Dymanics of TGirl Attraction' - Just as I stated in the article, "There is not one reason in particular to explain chemistry between two individuals based on sexual orientation or roles." - Part two of the article contains questions that are going to create an even bigger hype, so stay tuned.

Check out the article here: http://sexlifecanada.ca/canada/natio...ction-part-one

[danthepoetman]

LongTom, i agree with you. You are just being honest and blunt, and i like that.
It might not be flattery for some of us, but that is the fact.
It's indeed hard for some tgirls to accept that we are actually NOT a woman physically (again i'm emphasizing physical aspects of it), though mentally speaking ,we can be as feminine or even more feminine than GG

Tia, I’m not trying to be flattering. But I just can’t relate to that. Yes, t-women are sometimes comparatively taller. But bigger physically? it’s not in my experience. In fact, a majority of t-women don’t escort, go on with their life “stealth”, and most of them don’t stand out wildly, from what I know, out of the crowd. Besides, it also depends on the guy’s point of view, of course, and some guys, you have to admit (and I don’t want to offend anyone here), are not very tall nor very strongly built physically; I’m sure this makes a difference.
Maybe if you’re talking purely averages, it might have some merit, but averages don’t really mean a thing when it comes to real life, to personal experiences: averages are just numbers. After a few corrective surgeries and a while on HRT, most t-women pass, I would assume. Of course, you have to consider that not all women are beautiful either.
So I guess I’m relating pretty much to what Wendy (and also Amber) is suggesting, here. It’s largely a matter of subjective perceptions.

Tom, I think everyone is seeing that you’re not trying to be offensive. You try to be as delicate as you can in describing your feelings on the matter. And it’s fine: we’re talking, here. I don’t think anyone is condemning you anyways.
It’s the femininity in t-women that attracts you to them, you are not the least bit attracted by men nor maleness, yet it seems to you that you relate better to t-women because of a slight element of similarity in them. That’s fine. You have the right to your taste and opinion. Personally, I don’t share the experience; not anymore that I would appreciate some “virile” aspect, even faint of deep, in a g-woman, would I focus on that in a t-woman. I just don’t see it because I’m totally conquered by the femininity in itself. It’s something purely subjective here too, I suppose.

Lexi, I suppose you must be surprised and happy about the reactions to these interviews! They’re very good, very interesting and deserves to be read! I think the proof of that has been made here, lol, but I just want to emphasize on it.
Once again, I also invite people to go read your personal interview, and that of Tia:
http://www.ynot.com/content/117590-e...lexi-wade.html
http://www.sexlifecanada.ca/canada/n...9-tgirl-escort

[asianphoenixx]

Tia, I’m not trying to be flattering. But I just can’t relate to that. Yes, t-women are sometimes comparatively taller. But bigger physically? it’s not in my experience. In fact, a majority of t-women don’t escort, go on with their life “stealth”, and most of them don’t stand out wildly, from what I know, out of the crowd. Besides, it also depends on the guy’s point of view, of course, and some guys, you have to admit (and I don’t want to offend anyone here), are not very tall nor very strongly built physically; I’m sure this makes a difference.
Maybe if you’re talking purely averages, it might have some merit, but averages don’t really mean a thing when it comes to real life, to personal experiences: averages are just numbers. After a few corrective surgeries and a while on HRT, most t-women pass, I would assume. Of course, you have to consider that not all women are beautiful either.
So I guess I’m relating pretty much to what Wendy (and also Amber) is suggesting, here. It’s largely a matter of subjective perceptions.

Let me share my personal opinion to make it clear(er)

I feel like a giant, every time i go back to Jakarta or to any Asian country.
I'm 5'8" (173 cm) and about 135 pounds now or 62 kg ( a few pounds heavier, blamed to winter time). My shoulder is at least half an inch wider than average Asian woman, as a matter of fact, i never see any asian GG who is more athletic than me.

But here I'm in the western world...i feel sexy and beautiful as Adriana Lima...men keep coming to my room so i will be as rich as Madonna soon LOL (joke!)
Why?
Because the men compare me to caucasian women...and for their standard..i'm a sex bomb, an exotic one!

Good for me, but it's definitely NOT a fair comparison, because they are comparing apple with orange.

I'm definitely taller, more muscular, way more athletic than average Asian woman. Let's face it....this is real life

good night!

[asianphoenixx]

check this pic below, just look at how long my legs and how wide is my shoulder, not even mentioning my muscle tone

Beauty is on the eye of beholder.

I'm glad..i'm here in USA..not in Japan! Yeah!!!!

[danthepoetman]

You're an outstanding beauty, Tia!!

I understand what you mean. And maybe indeed your personal case is not representative. But I look at you, and you're so delicate! Same thing with Amber, for instance, she's all soft and supple; so lovely!
I think another very subjective factor that comes into play, here, is the fact that you ladies (t or g) are NEVER satisfied with your look, no matter how incredibly lovely you are...

[NoahNomad]

I find it very interesting that a ts woman would say she is not a woman physically and I find it quite bizarre that she would point out what she considers to be "masculine" features on her body. I don't quite get that, but in my opinion that seems to be a defense mechanism; embracing what you believe other's see as masculine or male features because you are a transsexual and you don't see yourself as a "real woman".

I personally don't know any ts woman who would say anything close to that.

As far as the original comment that ts women offer a male-male connection...that is complete bullshit. If you often find yourself in bed with big, burly, muscular ts women then you have to ask yourself why. Assuming that most ts women are built that way is completely ignorant and deflective of your own personal preference.


I wonder, what kind of gg women are you dating/fucking? Are they big, burly, muscular women too?

I am dating a ts woman, and she has the softest, creamiest skin you could imagine. Her legs are long and smooth, her body is toned and sexy. She's fit with the perfect curves and a dream in the bedroom. That is my personal preference for all women I'd want to be in a relationship with, let alone sleep with. Many photo's posted on HA discredit your bizarre claims about ts women and their bodies. You're pretty offensive with your blanketed observations.

[LongTom101]

I find it very interesting that a ts woman would say she is not a woman physically and I find it quite bizarre that she would point out what she considers to be "masculine" features on her body. I don't quite get that, but in my opinion that seems to be a defense mechanism; embracing what you believe other's see as masculine or male features because you are a transsexual and you don't see yourself as a "real woman".

I personally don't know any ts woman who would say anything close to that.

As far as the original comment that ts women offer a male-male connection...that is complete bullshit. If you often find yourself in bed with big, burly, muscular ts women then you have to ask yourself why. Assuming that most ts women are built that way is completely ignorant and deflective of your own personal preference.


I wonder, what kind of gg women are you dating/fucking? Are they big, burly, muscular women too?

I am dating a ts woman, and she has the softest, creamiest skin you could imagine. Her legs are long and smooth, her body is toned and sexy. She's fit with the perfect curves and a dream in the bedroom. That is my personal preference for all women I'd want to be in a relationship with, let alone sleep with. Many photo's posted on HA discredit your bizarre claims about ts women and their bodies. You're pretty offensive with your blanketed observations.

Read my post properly before you post this crap

idiot

[LongTom101]

Thank you thank you thank you. My point exactly. If your sample of men are based soley on "clients", the data is going to be skewed. The first two trans-women I met were not escorts. My initial attraction was I saw a woman. That's what I'm attracted to. To continue this drivel of "maleness" is absurd. This is a survey as you said od tricks who frequent escorts.

Drivel ?

Then the word 'passable' that is so often used on this forum in relation to Tgirls, is completely redundant ?

I've noticed Terry Grooby himself use this word on this forum time and again, and nobody bats an eyelid.

You, and evidently others on here too, are firmly in denial

[NoahNomad]

Read my post properly before you post this crap

idiot

QUOTE: ["I always find the male aspect 'vibe' of Tgirls to be far more prominent and evident than the male aspect 'vibe'of GGs. This just seems obvious to me."]

This is a product of mysoginy and transphobia. You know that transwomen were determined "male" at birth, so you will always associate a certain amount of male attributes to their physical and psychological being no matter how feminine and passable they are. I'm sure you assign this "maleness" to cisgender women who have stronger, more developed features than YOU, which is probably not an accurate, full measure of what it is to be male.

Seems to me that this little idea about "maleness" in women you've created is the perfect insulation for your sexual psychosis.

Put 5 white gg's and 5 white tgirls, all aged 25, in separate lineups and let's compare. That's basically what would need to happen, right?