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Thread: Celebrate Diversity
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04-10-2006 #41Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
FK
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04-10-2006 #42Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
Government does create marriage,in the form of legal contracts and certificates.Government has no business legally acknowledging marriage,selling certificates,creating data bases,conferring rights based on the certificates,granting tax deductions,etc.
In our world,you wish to "marry" someone,sign your own binding legal contract and put a ring on your finger.Why persist in attempting to conform to the patriarchal standard as defined by government.
What you want done "fairly and not arbitarily" is not fair,but purely subjective. You would confer to one group,while denying the same rights to the next aggrieved minority in line,be they polygamists,beastialists,or NAMBLA.
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04-10-2006 #43
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Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
Why can't you answer the questions being put to you? What political party do you belong to, or believe in?
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04-10-2006 #44Why can't you answer the questions being put to you? What political party do you belong to, or believe in?
But to satiate all of your curiousities,mainly libertarian,somewhat classical liberal and a little conservative.
Yeah,that means i`m a huge fire-arms owner too.So don`t B&E my home at night
PS: you put your faith in political parties ! ? how small.
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04-10-2006 #45
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Truth about separation of church and state.
Hi all,
Just thought I would point out that the separation of church and state doesn't exist in the constitution, federalist papers, or declaration of independence.
The constitution only asserts that congress can make no laws affecting organized religions. Or congress can't touch religion. Religion did touch politics... Heck the school they taught in was where they worshiped on sundays is just one example.
Just to set the record correct on that one...
Enjoy
Max
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04-10-2006 #46
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04-10-2006 #47
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Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
First of all, I never said that. Nice try.
Second of all, it would have saved everyone a lot of time if you would have just told everyone you were a troll right from the begining. How mainly libertarian,somewhat classical liberal and a little conservative of you.
Check please!
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04-10-2006 #48
Once again, you didn't really answer the question. You criticize my "buffet" philosophy without really defining your own. "mainly libertarian,somewhat classical liberal and a little conservative", thats a smorgasbord, not an ideology. And you still haven't explained, given your apparent lack of support for gay rights and gay marriage, how your being here is not self contradictory or hypocritical?
I said I was a libertarian, but I never said I wasn't a pragmatist. Government and the institution of marriage are here and are not going away. Recognizing that, I want my Goverment to treat me fairly and equally and not limit my freedoms unreasonably. There are presently over 1000 benefits that a married man and woman have that a man and a transgender cannot have. Its a matter of practicality, not patriarchy.
FK
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04-10-2006 #49Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
I really have better things to do than banter with you since you're obviously right and we're obviously wrong. Gawd, I just love newbies on this friggin' board. Sigh.
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04-10-2006 #50
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Oh, come on, don't just give up on this guy. He doesn't sound stupid, although I'd have to say I personally think he's a neocon hiding behind the Libertarian shield (which in my opinion is stupid).
This thread has been great so far. White_Canadian_Male could turn out to be an interesting guy, and he's certainly entitled to his opinion, even if he might be a jerk.
If nothing else, it's interesting to hear opinions contrary to what most of us think here. Just my humble opinion on what I think has been an interesting thread.