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Thread: Celebrate Diversity
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04-09-2006 #31Originally Posted by trish
Does the democrat party allow muslims to practice polygamy,including marriage to 9 year olds? No? Why how intolerant of you. Mohammed married Aisha at the age of 9.
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04-09-2006 #32Originally Posted by Ecstatic
Define "separation of church and state" in regards to a church,IE;Church of England ?
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04-09-2006 #33
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White_Canadian_Male writes:
Does the democrat party allow muslims to practice polygamy,including marriage to 9 year olds? No? Why how intolerant of you.
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04-09-2006 #34Originally Posted by trish
Being neither Republican nor democrat myself the dems love the divide and conquer routine,piting one group against another. The Republicans stick to the original nuclear family. Not an alien concept since it`s been practiced for centuries by the majority of the world. Majority rules whether you like it or not.Don`t,move to Cuba.They`re so progressive they just throw your ass in jail for it.
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04-09-2006 #35
WhiteCanadianMale, for your information, since you apparently need some on this topic:
A Libertarian is one who:
Believes in the principles of freedom our founding fathers fought for.
Believes that you have the sole right to run your life the way you see fit.
Believes that you are the master and government is the servant.
Believes that government gets its rights from you, not the other way around.
Believes in the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and the Bill of Rights, without compromise.
From the Libertarian Party Platform
We advocate an end to all government attempts to dictate, prohibit, control or encourage any private lifestyle, living arrangement or contractual relationship. We would repeal existing laws and policies intended to condemn, affirm, encourage or deny sexual lifestyles, or any set of attitudes about such lifestyles...
we advocate the repeal of all laws regarding consensual sexual relations, including prostitution and solicitation, and the cessation of state oppression and harassment of homosexual men and women, that they, at last, be accorded their full rights as individuals; the repeal of all laws regulating or prohibiting the possession, use, sale, production, or distribution of sexually explicit material, independent of "socially redeeming value" or compliance with "community standards"
FK
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04-09-2006 #36
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my dear little White_Canadian_Male, you may not considered yourself a republican but you sure are their most ardent supporter. So in light of that obvious bias I'll repeat the question you never answered:
Does the Republican Party allow muslims to practice polygamy,including marriage to 9 year olds?
"...I no longer believe that people's secrets are defined and communicable, or their feelings full-blown and easy to recognize."_Alice Munro, Chaddeleys and Flemings.
"...the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way". _Judge Holden, Cormac McCarthy's, BLOOD MERIDIAN.
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04-09-2006 #37
First Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
When you try to pass a law based on a religious viewpoint, ie gay marriage, or when you try to pass one to advance religion ie school prayer, you are supposed to be stopped by the wall separating Church and State. Too many on the right think the wall should be more like a speed bump, but the right is just wrong about that.
FK
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04-10-2006 #38Originally Posted by White_Male_Canada
Originally Posted by White_Male_CanadaOriginally Posted by Felicia Katt
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04-10-2006 #39Originally Posted by Felicia Katt
You admit you`re not a true libertarian and only agree with certain ideological points that suit yourself.
Government cannot create marriage any more than it can create jobs. If you WERE a libertarian you would understand the difference between the legal and organic.
You`re caught in a self-contradiction.Not wanting government to define marriage,but wanting it to define marriage,only as you see fit.
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04-10-2006 #40Originally Posted by Ecstatic
The establisment clause of the 1st amendment does not require government neutrality between religion and atheism. Do you know why?
You`re avoiding and deflecting from my question,
"seperation of church and state", what was the "church" as defined by Jefferson and others?
As far as De Tocqueville and Chapter 16, he also recognized this as far from an actuality, because of the careful system of checks and balances. Tocqueville used the term “providential” when describing the spread of democracy . He was trying to convey a sense of prehistorical determination and Divine triumph.
Still sticking to him ?