Israel and the US

[yosi]

Yes, mistranslation.

<Experts confirm that Iran's president did not call for Israel to be 'wiped off the map'. Reports that he did serve to strengthen western hawks.>
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...jun/14/post155

did you bother to see the youtube clip ?




what do you think Ahmadinejad neant when he shouted to the crowed: death to Israel?


http://www.haaretz.com/news/middle-e...rally-1.483441

the latest news from yesterday contradicts your claim that's only mistranslation.

yesterday in a rally marking the 25th anniversary of the Hamas , Hamas leader Khaled Meshal said: "We will never recogniזe the legitimacy of the Israeli occupation and therefore there is no legitimacy for Israel, no matter how long it will take"

[yosi]

double post , please delete

[greyman]

<did you bother to see the youtube clip ?>

I clicked on it but it is "unavailable in your country". Did you read the article I posted? There are plenty more like it.

[Stavros]

Ahmadinejad plays to an audience that expects him to make uncompromising statements; Netanyahu does the same. Ahmadinejad leaves office next June, the real issue in Iran is how the elections will be managed and whether or not the reform minded opposition can field a candidate that can win. Just as Netanyahu has locked Israel's position behind a wall of pre-conditions, so in Iran the core issue is the survival of the apparatus of power created by the Ayatollah Khomeini in the years following the Revolution of 1979.

What seems to be obvious is that Israel and its neighbours have no mechanism or means of communicating with each other, except either by shouting or routing their messages through third parties. The Jewish population of Iran at one time used to act as a conduit in communications with Israel, even after Khomeini came to power, but as happened in Northern Ireland, unless, and until people who are sworn enemies are forced to deal with each other on a regular basis, the rhetoric obscures the common problems they all have which need attention. Water resources, affordable accommodation, economic growth, jobs -most people in Iran and Israel are actually more concerned with these very real issues than some hysterical speech made by their leader in the UN or anywhere else.

[yosi]

<did you bother to see the youtube clip ?>

I clicked on it but it is "unavailable in your country". Did you read the article I posted? There are plenty more like it.

I've read the aticle , but the clip proves otherwise.

Hamas leader's speech from 3 days ago also proves that they want to wipe Israel off the map.

here is a screenshot from the clip you couldn't see.

1 picture = 1,000 words

[hippifried]

Quick question:
Why would anyone think that a non English speaker would use American or western idioms when addressing his people (also non English speakers) in Farsi?

[greyman]

<Hamas leader's speech from 3 days ago also proves that they want to wipe Israel off the map.>

Of that I have no doubt, but what you said is that Iran wants to "wipe Israel off the map", as if Ahmadinejad is planning a military attack. That has been disproved enough times. By continually repeating that old chestnut, it reminds me of the pack of lies used by the west to soften up public opinion prior to invading Iraq.

Of course you ignore the constant threats of military action against Iran coming from Israel.

[yosi]

<Hamas leader's speech from 3 days ago also proves that they want to wipe Israel off the map.>

Of that I have no doubt, but what you said is that Iran wants to "wipe Israel off the map", as if Ahmadinejad is planning a military attack. That has been disproved enough times. By continually repeating that old chestnut, it reminds me of the pack of lies used by the west to soften up public opinion prior to invading Iraq.

Of course you ignore the constant threats of military action against Iran coming from Israel.

the threats coming from Israel of military action against Iran are against the nuclear power Iran is building , nuclear bombs to use to wipe Israel off the map .

[Stavros]

the threats coming from Israel of military action against Iran are against the nuclear power Iran is building , nuclear bombs to use to wipe Israel off the map .

Worth reading the whole article, but there is a summary here:
http://www.foreignaffairs.com/articl...d-get-the-bomb

[hippifried]

the threats coming from Israel of military action against Iran are against the nuclear power Iran is building , nuclear bombs to use to wipe Israel off the map .

What nuclear bombs?