MystiquEvolution????

[sdman]

What is wrong with this person? She calls herself a lesbain tranny and from all the posts I've seen her post on here it sounds as if she hates men? If she calls herself a lesbian tranny then who is she sleeping with because most GG women that I know are totally repulsed by trannies and definitely would never date one! Even she has admitted that over 95% of the reactions that she gets from women is negative so what is wrong with this idiot? Why go through a transition if you like women in the first place? I think this person is very confused in life and is bored. Most women like men real men and most trannies like men so what's with a tranny who does something that she knows she's going to be rejected by the women? A lesbian tranny now that some weird shit.

Do I hate men? That seems to be a major thing to some people. The answer is...No, I don't hate men. I do hate immature, ignorant, narrow-minded idiots who parade around thinking they are men though. Unfortunately, there seems to be more of the latter that I have come in contact with. A real man, although he may have never heard of something or understand it, can still respect another person.

So you have never heard of transsexuals being interested in women and other transsexuals? Well, allow me to introduce myself since you obviously want to know so badly (otherwise you wouldn't have created this topic). My name is Raven, but everyone here either knows me as Mystique or "That man hating bitch." Yes, I'm a transsexual woman who identifies as a lesbian. I'm actually in a relationship with another transgendered woman right now (She's bi, if that's of any importance). I'm young, intelligent and I have no problem voicing myself (even if it's not a popular decision). People that I don't like will most definitely know it. I don't feel the need to hide ANYTHING! Equally, people that don't like me, let me know...as you have. That's quite all right. I'm not here for your approval or anyone else's. What I am here for (when I am here) is entertainment, conversation...you know that whole forum thing. Lately, I haven't had much time for the site because between holding down a 9-5 and maintaining a relationship is very consuming. Still, I come back to say Hi and catch up. Btw...I'm neither black nor white...I'm mixed.

Well, enough for the Q&A and intro...on to the education. Although it may not be in your face, there is quite a large subculture of transsexuals who only date women or other TSs. The women "you know," may not have an interest in transsexuals...but you don't know every woman. Just like I don't know every man to say I hate all men. The life of a transsexual is hard in itself. Throw in being a lesbian and you are a double outcast by most. Still, despite all of that, I am still here. As already stated, sexual identity and sexual orientation are completely different things. The vibe I'm getting from you is, you feel transsexuals only should transition for men. Sadly, there are quite a few that do transition for men. Real women transition for themselves! I can't possibly stress that enough. This life has caused many people their lives, just for the sake of being different and misunderstood. Still, we all press on. The commitment and dedication we put into ourselves is rivaled to none. Instead of being appreciated and respected, we as a whole are outcasted. No matter how pretty, "passable," etc...we are all under the social microscope of negativity at some point.

Okay that went a little deeper than I originally planned, but hopefully you get the message. You think I'm confused and I know there are quite a few people that will agree with you. Just remember, I hold no punches and come straight out with who I am and what I am. You are busy asking questions. I'm neither confused or bored in this life. I'm proof of what transition should truly be about...SELF. Educate yourself!

Thanks everyone for the positive responses and support on this topic. It is very much appreciated.

Much Respect!

Well thanks for the honest reply MystiquEvolution I guess I have a little bit better understanding of the situation now. I am too somewhat of an old fashioned guy myself and beleive in the traditional male and female relationships granted TS aren't typical women but it's all the same to me and this is something new to me. Seen plenty of lesbian GG women but a tranny lesbian is something that I thought you were kidding about for a while. The only thing is if you're going to post here try to tone it done some because beleive me you are the minority here not the men.

[sdman]

You guys forgot, Mystique doesn't hate men. She just hates black men

Thanks for that clarification.

[drock]

You guys forgot, Mystique doesn't hate men. She just hates black men

LMBAO.. and really after seeing her pic.. Not bad looking at all

[SnowJ]

I like her. She's just like me, just transforming into a woman.

Mystique is a man that likes women and transsexuals.

For some reason I think we lose sight that transsexuals are men. There is no way of getting around that. So she's not a lesbian, but she is bi, like everyone else here.

She likes girls and transsexuals with big butts. I'm pretty sure she loves the models on UVP.

She comes off as a very intelligent person. From the photo, I believe she's either black or hispanic.

She's cool in my book.

[twowaybro]

I bet there very few sites if any that cater to GG and trannies looking to hook up if any.

Maybe not GG<-->TG but definitely TG<-->TG.....case in point:

www.safesextour.com/tgirls/

[Wykydengel]

I think it's totally different seanchai. Calling yourself a lesbian tranny that likes women is really strange in my opinion.

sorry for the lack of an inroduction, though i will make up for that later, allow me to say that while you have have right to formulate whatever opinions you desire, this, among others is totally without merit.

you question how a transsexual woman can identify as a lesbian...it is quite easy when you understand the psychology behind such matters. maybe you are misinformed about what it means to be trans, for it is only my opinion that you only have porn to use as a reference. asking how mystique can call herself a lesbian is like me asking how a man can be intimate with transwoman and still consider himself straight.

as i continue reading this rather entertaining topic, i am sure there will be more to add...

[Wykydengel]

I've never heard the term cissexual before? So you have a GG who's a fuck buddy? I think this is some weird stuff. Most trannies that i've meet are gay so it's a big strech of the imagination to think that they are with women. By the way I think you're a sexy woman too.

i like the term and, though i have not heard it before, it does sound better. no offense, but if a transwoman considersherself "gay" than she would be a lesbian. neowomen (my term) who sleep with men would be consider straight. i never understood why the terms "gay" and "lesbian" are used seperately being that they both fall under the umbrella term homosexuality.

fyi...i'm bisexual, so i feel i can look at this situation somewhat objectively.

[Wykydengel]

So where do they find these women at then? When you think about it most women like masculine men so it would be really odd that a woman would date a trannie. Even lesbians don't really want anything to do with a real cock so i'm just having a hard time absorbing this.

Why do you see very few women who are willing to have sex with with trannies in porn? I've never seen any of the mainstream women have sex with a tranny but they'll eat up some pussy though.

this is not a hunt that we would see on the discovery channel. unless your world is so narrow, you would realize that it is all around you. however, if one does not open their eyes they cannot see...can they.

i am a very feminine woman. from what my girlfriends--and i am talking lovers, not just friends--tell me (yes, i have more than one and for the record, one is a neowoman and one is cisexual--so glad i used the term) that i have a very girl-next-door look.

now, granted, i am into bodybuilding (no offense, but my biceps are prolly bigger than yours), martial arts, and in a previous life i worked private security for some rather unpleasant people. so, in that regard i have a masculine personality as well.

and for the record, i love both girlfriends equally, there are no diffences in my eyes being that they are women who are positive influences in my life.

[Wykydengel]

My question for Mystiquevolution would be basically why do you come here? Granted its a public forum and people can come and go as they please. I have no problem with that. But when you HATE MEN SO FUCKING MUCH, and men make up about 98% of the forum, and I really don't see a whole lot of gg's hanging out here, whats your point? Hate is a pretty powerful emotion. Its an emotion that this world could do without. I was told if you wanna make the world a better place, stop the hate. I've got no problem with a person's sexual preference. You like what you like. You'll never see me chastising someone for what they like or don't like. But when you hate and hate and hate so fucking much that suicide is a better option as she said, I just can't get with that. And then the whole bashing of black men. LoL. I'm an very well educated and talented black man who finds it sad when I hear her or anyone bash black men. Every race has its trash. But she basically walks around with an immense amount of hate for people she's never met. Pretty sad. Just an observation.

okay, while i can see why you would ask why a person would come to a site like this--i find that i am asking the question myself about me being here—i will say that some of the forums are rather engaging. while i am not one to care less about porn (why stand on the sidelines and watch a fantasy when you can spend your time living it?)

however, back to the topic, mystique said nothing of hating men in this topic, what she did in another topic is of little concern to me because i am dealing with the present. so, no, she did not say anything about hating men. i will agree that hate, in any form is something we can all live without.

bashing anyone based on their race is something i cannot tolerate. being multiracial, i can appreciate both sides of my cultural heritage (btw, i am black, german and irish). even if one’s experience with one race has been largely negative, we cannot assume that everyone of that race is equally deplorable. so, mystique, i offer that bit of advice to you.

finally, while you feel that mystique “walks around with an immense amount of hate for people she’s never met…” well, many of you walk around with an immense misunderstanding of gender especially when it comes trying to intelligently discuss what people think they know about what it means to be transgender (c’mon, can you tell me you can relate to someone else’s life through watching a stereotype have sex on a dvd?)

don’t misunderstand me; if that is enjoyable for you, that is one thing; however, it does not make you educated or an authority on the matter. and those are my observations.

[Wykydengel]

What is wrong with this person? She calls herself a lesbain tranny and from all the posts I've seen her post on here it sounds as if she hates men? If she calls herself a lesbian tranny then who is she sleeping with because most GG women that I know are totally repulsed by trannies and definitely would never date one! Even she has admitted that over 95% of the reactions that she gets from women is negative so what is wrong with this idiot? Why go through a transition if you like women in the first place? I think this person is very confused in life and is bored. Most women like men real men and most trannies like men so what's with a tranny who does something that she knows she's going to be rejected by the women? A lesbian tranny now that some weird shit.

Do I hate men? That seems to be a major thing to some people. The answer is...No, I don't hate men. I do hate immature, ignorant, narrow-minded idiots who parade around thinking they are men though. Unfortunately, there seems to be more of the latter that I have come in contact with. A real man, although he may have never heard of something or understand it, can still respect another person.

So you have never heard of transsexuals being interested in women and other transsexuals? Well, allow me to introduce myself since you obviously want to know so badly (otherwise you wouldn't have created this topic). My name is Raven, but everyone here either knows me as Mystique or "That man hating bitch." Yes, I'm a transsexual woman who identifies as a lesbian. I'm actually in a relationship with another transgendered woman right now (She's bi, if that's of any importance). I'm young, intelligent and I have no problem voicing myself (even if it's not a popular decision). People that I don't like will most definitely know it. I don't feel the need to hide ANYTHING! Equally, people that don't like me, let me know...as you have. That's quite all right. I'm not here for your approval or anyone else's. What I am here for (when I am here) is entertainment, conversation...you know that whole forum thing. Lately, I haven't had much time for the site because between holding down a 9-5 and maintaining a relationship is very consuming. Still, I come back to say Hi and catch up. Btw...I'm neither black nor white...I'm mixed.

Well, enough for the Q&A and intro...on to the education. Although it may not be in your face, there is quite a large subculture of transsexuals who only date women or other TSs. The women "you know," may not have an interest in transsexuals...but you don't know every woman. Just like I don't know every man to say I hate all men. The life of a transsexual is hard in itself. Throw in being a lesbian and you are a double outcast by most. Still, despite all of that, I am still here. As already stated, sexual identity and sexual orientation are completely different things. The vibe I'm getting from you is, you feel transsexuals only should transition for men. Sadly, there are quite a few that do transition for men. Real women transition for themselves! I can't possibly stress that enough. This life has caused many people their lives, just for the sake of being different and misunderstood. Still, we all press on. The commitment and dedication we put into ourselves is rivaled to none. Instead of being appreciated and respected, we as a whole are outcasted. No matter how pretty, "passable," etc...we are all under the social microscope of negativity at some point.

Okay that went a little deeper than I originally planned, but hopefully you get the message. You think I'm confused and I know there are quite a few people that will agree with you. Just remember, I hold no punches and come straight out with who I am and what I am. You are busy asking questions. I'm neither confused or bored in this life. I'm proof of what transition should truly be about...SELF. Educate yourself!

Thanks everyone for the positive responses and support on this topic. It is very much appreciated.

Much Respect!

First, it is good to know that you hate men. There are a few gentlemen who are breathing a sigh of relief. I believe, and I cannot speak for anyone else, that is may not be what you say, but how you say it, that may cause people to believe that you are anti men. You have strong opinions and you don’t hold back. That is neither good nor bad, it is just you.

You and I have spoken about the subject on many occasions [for everyone else reading…I am the girlfriend about whom Raven is speaking in her previous post.] Why I understand your intent and I understand the reasoning behind it (which is one of the benefits of actually knowing a person) you know how I feel when it comes to generalizations. Making blanket statements make you no different than those with whom you may have a difference of opinion.

I agree with you that cissexual women (gawd I love that term) have more of an interest in neowomen than most people realize. I can say that (and this is before we met, Raven) that, stroke for stroke, I have had more girlfriends than many men on this site. Why, not only for the sex, though…yeah I am that damn good…but it is because I see people for who they are and not the size of their ass, tits, or other trivial bullshit.
Moreover, for everyone who is now curious about who I am in relation to who Raven is. I have attached my picture.