What's up with all the bareback TS tops in porn?

[GroobySteven]

^I'm pretty sure nearly all viewers do. If it ain't raw, it ain't really sex. Am I right?

No - you're wrong. It's protected sex.

Are you HIV+ already?

[GroobySteven]

1. the odds of contracting HIV are something like 1 in 100,000 if you are RECEIVING an anal creampie (and way higher if you are GIVING) (according to CDC statistics)

Show me that statistic please as I think you've mis-interpreted it wildly.

2. add to that the fact that regular tested individuals every 30 days make that number even higher than untested people who have no idea about their health history.

That gives up to 29 days to have unprotected sex with a potentially HIV+ partner in between tests. If we were all working with professional sex workers, that wouldn't be an issue (most escorts know the risks and take precautions) but we're not, we're working with people who have personal lives and multiple sex partners. Viral load is also had the highest when first contracted (making it easier to pass on).

3. you would have to work with the one male performer in the industry who
a. has somehow contracted HIV
b. has caught it in between the 30 day window of testing
c. has to creampie you or draw blood somehow during anal sex

Yes - and we know it's happened - that people in the industry have become HIV+ through other performers.

so now what does anyone put those odds at? 1 in 2 million? higher? you have a better chance of winning the lottery to be honest. right?

Seriously Christian? What bollocks are you listening to?

is the threat of HIV a real one? of course it is. am i worried about getting it? nah not really. again, i would have to be the unluckiest guy in the world and I don't walk around thinking that incredibly unlucky things are going to happen to me. I am much more worried about getting a staph infection than HIV.

I don't need to fire away at you. You're a smart lad and I don't believe you honestly believe those statistics. I think the recent legal issues in LA for unprotected sex on set is throwing a lot of numbers from both sides into the mix, most of which are rubbish.

As a company, I really don't care about the Measure B either way, which is why it's one of the fights I'm not getting into. We're doing condom only shoots right now but my general consensus is that if both performers want to do condomless scenes and both are tested, then that's between them and the producer. We'd never not film somone for wanting to wear a condom for penetrative sex.
I also think we have an obligation to show sex as safe and as unexploitative as we can.

[christianxxx]

1. receptive anal intercourse is 10 times more likely to contract HIV than insertive

2. now I have to search the CDC database....sheesh

3. in what world do professional sex workers "most escorts...take precautions" - you do realize that many escorts will do bareback with clients for more money right? I really hope you know that because that's a 100 percent fact. I hope no one on this board or in real life thinks otherwise either.

4. "people in the industry have become HIV+ through other performers" - Steven once again, you aren't reading what I am saying. Its a math problem -

You are correct Marc Wallice & Darren James did infect other performers - in 1999 & 2004 respectively. Marc gave 8 girls HIV with his forged test & Darren gave 6 girls HIV as he was positive in between tests. And those are only two times it has happened.

Think about that for a second. There are basically 250-300 shoots a day in the industry...every day...of every year. So if there are 2 or 16 positive cases (however you want to look at the math) what is the total number of shoots? 750,000? 1,000,000? 1,500,000

So then why aren't the odds of getting it on set in a scene at something like 16:1,000,000 ? I guess you are right Steven, its not 1 in 2 million, but its still low enough for me not to worry about it daily. And I work 25-30 times a month, every month.

Those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with the legal issues in LA, to be honest, I am single and don't have a mortgage, I almost HOPE the biz moves to Vegas. lol

[GroobySteven]

1. receptive anal intercourse is 10 times more likely to contract HIV than insertive

2. now I have to search the CDC database....sheesh

3. in what world do professional sex workers "most escorts...take precautions" - you do realize that many escorts will do bareback with clients for more money right? I really hope you know that because that's a 100 percent fact. I hope no one on this board or in real life thinks otherwise either.

4. "people in the industry have become HIV+ through other performers" - Steven once again, you aren't reading what I am saying. Its a math problem -

You are correct Marc Wallice & Darren James did infect other performers - in 1999 & 2004 respectively. Marc gave 8 girls HIV with his forged test & Darren gave 6 girls HIV as he was positive in between tests. And those are only two times it has happened.

Think about that for a second. There are basically 250-300 shoots a day in the industry...every day...of every year. So if there are 2 or 16 positive cases (however you want to look at the math) what is the total number of shoots? 750,000? 1,000,000? 1,500,000

So then why aren't the odds of getting it on set in a scene at something like 16:1,000,000 ? I guess you are right Steven, its not 1 in 2 million, but its still low enough for me not to worry about it daily. And I work 25-30 times a month, every month.

Those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with the legal issues in LA, to be honest, I am single and don't have a mortgage, I almost HOPE the biz moves to Vegas. lol

The odds of not getting on set are low - that's because most performers are educated and aware about it and because producers expect to see tests. You and I both know girls who have worked recently in this industry who are positive and they would have continued to work if a test for a shoot hadn't shown up as positive.

I couldn't do what you do. I know the stats are nowhere near 1 in 100,000 (according to that, if I got bummed by a different HIV+ individual everyday, it could take 280 yrs for me to catch it? What a load of crap!) and each of us has to take their own personal risk levels in their work and personal lives but the risk is too much for me.

[christianxxx]

oh I see what you mean. I don't assume the partner I work with are positive, so I guess that's why I assume the odds are lower. I assume that if you figure that my partner has tested negative within the past 30 days that lowers the risk as opposed to someone who has never been tested ever. right?

[GroobySteven]

oh I see what you mean. I don't assume the partner I work with are positive, so I guess that's why I assume the odds are lower. I assume that if you figure that my partner has tested negative within the past 30 days that lowers the risk as opposed to someone who has never been tested ever. right?

Yes it would lower the odds. As I stated, we all make a personal choice - I just couldn't trust someone to have no contacted it within 30 days.

[spko]

I had gone off TSSeduction until i noticed they started to do BB shoots, now i've re-subscribed again because is hot and different.

For me the pinnacle would be if the girl finishes in the guys ass, it's such a hot role reversal but I don't think there are many guys in TS porn that would take a creampie from a ts, maybe there is a social stigma attached to it or something?

Christian what are your thoughts?

[christianxxx]

anal creampies are illegal with all evil angel scenes because of the simple fact that it is the specific sex act that produces the highest risk of catching HIV (this is how both of the owners who are married of Evil Angel became HIV positive) - in a related fact - Tricia Devereaux, the wife, became infected with HIV from a scene with Marc Wallice in 1999 (from my earlier post).

I don't bottom very much, but I would do an anal creampie with a TS that I felt comfortable with her testing history. Venux Lux is the last one to do that to me.

But I can't speak for the other guys in TS porn.

[Jack59]

actually you are fucking retarded. i am a performer genius, i know when i test. the only company that requires 15 day tests is manwin/brazzers - neither of whom shoots TS girls.

good lord chief, get a clue

So is Kayden Kross, and she told me she's getting tested every 15 days. Given the choice of believing her or you, I'll believe her.

Link to her blog. You want the Oct 25th entry.

http://unkrossed.blogspot.com/

[Jack59]

Sorry, meant the Sept. 25th.