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    Default Re: It was all supposed to be so different

    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    Where do you live, Bishr?
    i am syrian



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    Default Re: It was all supposed to be so different

    Quote Originally Posted by onmyknees View Post
    It was all supposed to be so different..........


    That's what you all told us. You pro Obama pro Islamists. No longer would America's mid east policy be directed by some buffoon from Texas, some cowboy. No longer would Muslim countries be given the short straw from the US. With Obama's finesse and experience it was a new era. Even Barry's speech in Cairo talked about a "New Beginning" and a religion of peace . This man with the Muslim father, the Muslim middle name who spoke to them in their language was going to change it all. This is what you proclaimed, what you assured. Dropped were the words "War on Terror" and not even a mention of Muslim extremists was permitted when Major Hassan gunned down so many of our soldiers while uttering "Allah is great". No Muslim was to be offended.
    All troops were withdrawn from Iraq much to the dismay of many who recommended a small US presence to continue the transition. Iraq's government wanted us completely gone, and we obliged.
    Even the most wanted man in the world and it's most notorious mass killer of Americans, was treated with respect after death as not to offend . A proper funeral.
    Then Mubarak gets thrown under the bus by Barry after praising him 20 months earlier. A dictator to be sure, but a friend of our government and to Israel and one who kept peace his agreements. Replaced with the Muslim Brotherhood....again you laughed off any concerns of Sharia Law and dangers to Israel. Then Gaddafi falls ....in a wave known as The Arab Spring. Barry knew what he was doing you told me. With Washington's help and our dollars, they got the governments they desired..it was all falling into place so perfectly almost as if the Chosen One was choreographing all of it from the White House.

    And tonight in six different Muslim countries, US flags smolder, and our embassies burn or are invaded. Our soldiers are murdered by their Afghani counterparts . A fanatical leader works overtime in a race to get nuclear weapons, while the leader of our only real ally in the region is snubbed. Our State Department officials killed, and Administration officials apologize for a little seen video and our President raises campaign money in Las Vegas. Your Arab Spring has turned to an Autumn of hate and murder and little has changed.
    This is a confused post. I don't think there have been any posts that were 'pro Islamist'; and I doubt that those of us who have been unable to count how many millions of your $$ have been given to Egypt would consider that a 'short straw' -although in relation to the $$$ you spent on Iraq and Afghanistan maybe it is. Mubarak was not thrown under a bus by anyone, he lost the respect of Egyptians years ago and has lost power, and I assume you don't weep to see the end of the career of a multi-millionaire who used to get 99% of the 'vote' in Egyptian election...Obama like any other head of state had no choice in deaaling with him, anymore than he can -or should- choose the President of Egypt.

    not even a mention of Muslim extremists was permitted when Major Hassan gunned down so many of our soldiers while uttering "Allah is great". No Muslim was to be offended.
    How often have you praised the Muslims who serve and die in the US armed forces? How many extremists of any kind are serving under your flag?

    Your Arab Spring has turned to an Autumn of hate and murder and little has changed...
    The 'Arab Spring' began in December 2010, so it has been going for 21 months. I wonder when you or anyone else thinks the American Revolution began. If it was the Townshend Revenue Act of June 1767 that led to the colonial assemblies condemning taxation without representation, then 21 months doesn't even get you to the first stationing of British troops in Boston to deal with unrest there. If you start with the incidents at Lexington and Concord in April 1775 you would find after 21 months you had a Declaration of Independence, and a war on your hands....people being killed by forces of the crown, revolutionaries getting external help from France...

    Would a President Romney today be sending US troops BACK into the Middle East? To do what? Where? At what cost?



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    Default Re: It was all supposed to be so different

    Quote Originally Posted by onmyknees View Post
    Dropped were the words "War on Terror" and not even a mention of Muslim extremists was permitted when Major Hassan gunned down so many of our soldiers while uttering "Allah is great".
    This is breath-taking, even for you. Maj. Nidal Hassan's attack is pretty much the reason the U.S. currently conducting a drone war in Yemen.

    "...not a mention of Muslim extremists..."???? Really? Have you ever heard of the former Anwar al-Awlaki? Were you unconscious for the year or so in between Abdulmutallab's attempted attack and the drone strike that put al-Awlaki down? Because he was kind of in the newspaper a lot.

    Of course, you would have to be literate to know that.



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