View Poll Results: Which Do You Like Better?
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Thread: Hockey or Soccer
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09-03-2012 #31
Re: Hockey or Soccer
Dude's gotta YouTube page of nothing but Hockey Fights. Looky. http://www.youtube.com/user/fchockeyfights
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09-04-2012 #32
Re: Hockey or Soccer
Fighting in hockey IS prohibited BUT it is penalized as well so your statement "In soccer we're more civilised and prefer to eliminate violence by penalising it." is a mute point. Oh and although VERY rare I have seen all out brawls in soccer with both teams AND coaches/training staff getting involved. So get off your "high horse" about civility. There's a lively transfer market in soccer because you're referring to professional footballers but again anyone can hop onto a football pitch at the park and kick a ball around. The same can't be said about hockey. You have to learn how to skate not to mention skate AND use a hockey stick to stick handle the puck. WAY BIGGER LEARNING CURVE! Again I fail to understand why hockey players wearing padding is a bloody issue. The speed of the game requires it........not to mention have you ever been hit with a road hockey ball? If not a puck (vulcanized rubber) is 1000 times worse if you're hit by one and that's with padding on and it's significantly more painful/dangerous than an errant elbow or cleated foot and that's with protective body equipment, helmet and (more and more) a face shield. Those in the soccer/football camp seem to equate no padding = a more manly sport. As I said before you don't see the diving in excruciating pain as another hockey player skates by his opponent (barely touching him in the process) or the mock injuries that football/soccer players typically feign in hockey. Now tell me again which is the more civilized sport?
Last edited by Sulka_bewitched_me; 09-04-2012 at 01:50 PM.
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09-04-2012 #33
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09-04-2012 #34
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09-05-2012 #35
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Re: Hockey or Soccer
Let's break it down into individual areas:
1 - Violence in the games
My impression was that considering the amount of officials on the ice they don't exactly rush over to break it up allowing players to get ready by dispensing with stick/removing gloves. Ok poor choice of phrase on my part then - would have been a better say that there seems to be little progressive regulatory movement to stamp it out. In recent years soccer has moved to make a two-legged diving tackle particularly from behind a foul that can result in broken legs/ankles can now mean instant dismissal from the game. Yes there is the occasional all-out brawl in soccer but as you say thankfully it is rare. However in both sports we'd all be naive to think that violence would be totally eliminated so yes it's a moot point.
2 - Accessibility
Soccer is an easily accessible game - great isn't it? All you need is an area of flatt-ish ground plus a ball and something to demarcate the goals and you're away.
Ice hockey is clearly not an easily accessible game as you require an iced surface, specialised equipment in the form of helmets, skates, padding, sticks, goalnets (and an organ player ). So you dont' see a lot of Brazilian hockey players I guess. Statistically speaking then there's a much smaller pool of players to choose from in hockey.
3 - Skill in the games
I'm not decrying the abilities of ice hockey players Acquiring the basic skills to play soccer may be simpler and quicker because of the easier accessibility but it still requires years of training and coaching plus natural talent. Just because anyone can access it doesn't mean they're any good at it.
4 - Protection
Again I fail to understand why hockey players wearing padding is a bloody issue.
I have no idea of the mass or composition of a road hockey ball but I have suffered a regulation cricket ball hitting me at high velocity in the mouth so
I'm painfully aware of what it feels like to sustain such an impact.
I don't see what value there is in arguing that being hit by a puck into a padded body is 'significantly more painful/dangerous' than an action in soccer which results in a broken neck/leg/jaw or shredded testicles? To my mind it boils down to the fact that they're both dangerous sports which carry high-risk of injuries.
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09-05-2012 #36
Re: Hockey or Soccer
Apples and oranges and a pretty pointless debate. The aficionados of either sport will defend and advance their own as somehow being "better".
I've always been a soccer fan and played to a reasonably high amateur level in Scotland - right-side midfield - and still think of it as the beautiful game. It can achieve artistic flourishes that few other sports can.
Hockey generates an altogether different kind of excitement. When I lived in Germany I became a big fan of Cologne, with their mix of East Europeans, native Germans and second tier US and Canadian players. It's visceral, physical and very skilled, but it definitely has more of the Roman circus about it.
Agree to differ, then move on, chaps.
And I suspect Dino knew what he was starting.....
But pleasures are like poppies spread
You seize the flow'r, the bloom is shed
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09-05-2012 #37
Re: Hockey or Soccer
Smart man. I don't fight with anybody but I do start a little trouble admiring it from higher ground trying not to get any on me.
Is there any kind of Hockey played in Great Britain? I would imagine if you thought it was worth the effort that you guys could put together a decent team over time.
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09-05-2012 #38
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09-06-2012 #39
Re: Hockey or Soccer
Field hockey, as you call it, is played in a lot of schools, and as Rodinuk has rightly stated, has gained a higher public profile because of GB success in the Olympics - both teams fared well in the London games, with the women taking a medal.
When it comes to ice hockey, I much prefer what we get in the Winter Olympics, when they're playing for national pride and not money, plus we get to see the US and Canada at each other's throats and every former soviet bloc country knocking lumps out of the Russians.
One of our biggest problems with ice hockey is the lack of suitable venues - dozens of ice rinks, even in major cities, have closed over the last fifty years. A lot of youngsters try to emulate by playing to ice hockey rules on inline skates. It's very popular at college level.
Last edited by robertlouis; 09-06-2012 at 01:34 AM.
But pleasures are like poppies spread
You seize the flow'r, the bloom is shed
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09-06-2012 #40
Re: Hockey or Soccer
Gotcha. I was thinking you might have some small hockey clubs more than teams. Shame about the rinks. More for hobbyists than serious players at a beginning stage. We don't have California kids get into the NHL but Culver City has a great league for kids and teenagers to play and compete. Inline Hockey is popular here too.
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