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    Default Re: a refreshing look at Obama

    To anwser both of you, Yes the anger at the POTUS out weighs any short comings that most rank file southern republicans have, but there are more than a 'few' that will choose not to vote for the simple reason that Mitt is a mormon.



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    Is it possible -theoretically- for the delegates at the Republican National Convention to change their vote/minds, and select Ryan instead of Romney? As in switch them round, or select Ryan and choose someone else for VP-?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    Is it possible -theoretically- for the delegates at the Republican National Convention to change their vote/minds, and select Ryan instead of Romney? As in switch them round, or select Ryan and choose someone else for VP-?
    That would be interesting, wouldn't it.



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    Default Re: a refreshing look at Obama

    Niall Ferguson: Obama’s Gotta Go:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...eds-to-go.html



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    Default Re: a refreshing look at Obama

    Jesus - Niall Ferguson, in-house historian to the neo-cons.



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    Ben these days its ok to call a woman who writes books an author...

    Your cynical dismissal of politics is baffling -given the economic mess that Obama inherited from President Bush, are you really saying that the various packges that were put together to save the banking system from further erosion, that were designed to stimulate the economy, and the Affordable Health Care for America Act were merely 'business as usual' and a continuation of the policies of the previous Republican administration? If you are not interested in policy, then say so, but then ask yourself what it is that people, be they in or out of the Occupy movements are discussing when they discuss taxes. What passes for your critique of the power of the state in the US is wholly valid, but in the absence of a revolutionary movement -and the closest thing to it that you have is the Tea Party- you are stuck with the system you have -why not enter it in an attempt to improve it, even if only at the margins?
    You can't be an angel in politics or business. You can only be a monster.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Prospero View Post
    Jesus - Niall Ferguson, in-house historian to the neo-cons.
    He is.



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    Default Re: a refreshing look at Obama

    ..And a pompous hugely self-important and arrogant distorter of fact.

    http://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/gd...s-obama-poorly

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben View Post
    You can't be an angel in politics or business. You can only be a monster.
    How was Steve Jobs (when he was alive) a monster, or Bill Gates? Does the man who runs a grocery store on the corner of your neighbourhood really look like and behave like a monster? And who was asking for Angels to run a business anyway? Aung San suu Kyi and Nelson Mandela are both politicians, albet retired in one case -again, what sort of monsters are they? Jimmy Carter brokered the fist significant peace treaty between Israel and the Arabs in 1979, are those the actions of a monster?



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    Default Re: a refreshing look at Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Prospero View Post
    Jesus - Niall Ferguson, in-house historian to the neo-cons.
    A Full Fact-Check of Niall Ferguson's Very Bad Argument Against Obama:

    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...-obama/261306/



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