Mass Shooting at DK premiere in CO!

[Stavros]

I'm glad you feel you're doing something right about your absence of a second amendment and a bill of rights...

Factually incorrect -a Bill of Rights was presented to Parliament in 1689 and passed (it was a statutory form of the Declaration of Right made by King William and Queen Mary earier in the year), it remains the basis of the Constitutional Monarchy under which we live in the UK, and was a Bill of Rights that influenced the men who made the Revolution of 1776...

[giovanni_hotel]

When more cops start getting shot by NRA members, Congress will finally decide to pass more comprehensive restrictive gun legislation.

IMO letting randoms stockpile massive depots of ammunition AND weapons is not a good idea.

[robertlouis]

When more cops start getting shot by NRA members, Congress will finally decide to pass more comprehensive restrictive gun legislation.

IMO letting randoms stockpile massive depots of ammunition AND weapons is not a good idea.

Or maybe a mass shooting at an NRA Convention?

[buttslinger]

Cops and Mayors hate these lax gun laws.

[kittyKaiti]

When more cops start getting shot by NRA members, Congress will finally decide to pass more comprehensive restrictive gun legislation.

IMO letting randoms stockpile massive depots of ammunition AND weapons is not a good idea.

I cite this once again as complete, total and factual evidence that the current government of the United States of America and its law enforcement is unable to ensure our security.

[giovanni_hotel]

No offense Kitti, but that Anaheim shooting is only outrageous to non-Black people. From my perspective, it's more like, 'big deal, what's new??'

I'm always amazed when White people are shocked when they aren't treated with the utmost respect by law enforcement.

Honestly, you can stockpile all the ammo and guns you can find and you wouldn't have the firepower to take on the U.S. military or the National Guard if they are given instructions to 'put down' an domestic insurgent force.

Uncle Sam has tanks and 50 caliber machine guns. Lots of em. End of story.

[trish]

Your completely missing the point.

No, you're missing the point. It is sheer speculation that any line in the Declaration provided a consensus intent for the 2nd Amendment. The only intent made explicit in the 2nd Amendment pertains to arming the various recognized militia with privately own firearms. There no doubt were other intentions for the amendment that the founders agreed upon. But these were not written into the law. All further interpretation and application was left to the courts. No courts have, to my knowledge, ever affirmed your theory that an intention of the amendment is to allow citizens to attack U.S. troops.

[Faldur]

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


Not really sure why "the right of the people" is so hard to understand.

[trish]

A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.


Not really sure why "the right of the people" is so hard to understand.

Evidently you can't read. I am not disputing that second amendment gives citizens the right to bear arms. What is in dispute here is the reason for the second amendment. This is not a deep nor a subtle point. I don't know why you are you having such difficulty grasping the issue?

Some say one reason was self-defense. Some say one intention to allow for possible armed revolution against the U.S. government. Some say one intention was to allow citizens on the frontier to hunt for food. The founders may or may not have had a consensus on all these issue. But the only intention written into the amendment was to maintain armed and regulated militia.

Again, I am NOT making the argument that the restricted nature of the explicitly given intention restricts the right to bear arms to members of militia. My only point is that the minimality of amendment makes its application unclear in modern circumstances and that there is nothing in the amendment that tells us how to regulate or not regulate assault weapons, portable surface to air missile launchers, tactical nukes, or any "arms" of modern invention. Remember the founders were thinking of flintlocks.

[Dino Velvet]

Is James Holmes faking psychosis?