Who runs www.ashemaletube.com

[TheGuard]

Unfortunately if this trend doesn't stop, profits will dry up and there will be no new content. There needs to be some serious changes made.

[GroobySteven]

A: I'm not too worried about sending a few more hits to that website, if it means getting some advice and maybe getting somewhere in dealing with this problem

b: As to my knowledge of DMCA and all that -would you believe that I actually spend most of my time creating and just surviving that I have little time for anything else? Sorry, I can't physically be checking this stuff several times a day. And though I knew it was happening in small amount (i had seen stuff i did for other sites all over tube sites), I hadn't seen content from my own website in any large amounts - so I wasn't the legal authority on having the other stuff removed.

I will do all that- just that their DMCA page talked about sending stuff via snailmail. etc..

However, the more that I think about this, the more I am thinking of talking to a lawyer. Do you remember a court case a few years back where a woman was sued for millions by the record industry for mp3's?

When a small-time operation sees my videos that reach only hundreds of members on my site- now on a website where the I estimate the total amount of views at (hang on, let me add them up...) ...1,662,740 views. If I valued each viewing at $.50 then I'd still be looking at damages in the $800,000 range. And that's just from the ones from my site- not even counting stuff from other sites.

I'm really thinking about it...

Think about it.. When you send a DMCA notice, all you're doing is stopping the bleeding- you're not healing the wound. I'm starting to think that maybe sites like this need to be sued- not "threatend to be sued", but actually sued...

-Tara

If you are not worried about sending more hits to that site, then I am - that's why it's blocked and why when you saw that, you should have respected it.

Jeez ... yes you're frustrated, we all are. We're all getting hit and I've spent $10,000's on legal action in the last couple of years and had a few good results, I'm also currently part of a large action.


Tara, I'm trying not to be patronizing here but do you think you're the first person who has thought about legal action against a site like this? They're protected under the law and they skirt around the law. We have some of the top lawyers in the industry working with us - you need to trust me on this, don't waste your time. Sign up to the Xbiz.net forum for industry and see what's going on there, you'll get far better feedback then this forum. In a nutshell, the only way you're going to currently get content removed, is by sending a DMCA notification and the only way to have any impact is to check daily. If you can't afford 5 mins in the morning and 5 mins in the evening (it would probably take less than that if you're on top of it) then you're going to continue to get ripped.
I run a company with 20+ employees and even though we have a fulltime DMCA agent, I still check in and see if anything of ours has been added to remove it immediately.

I don't believe you should work with them. I refuse to but I choose my battles and if they're unwinnable then I'll wait until they are winnable or find other battles. We've managed to stay competitive because of the actions we've taken and having fulltime anti-piracy staff (as well as continuing with a good product) but it has been difficult and very costly. If it wasn't for piracy we probably would have had more hires, more content, more products, etc.

You have my email address if you need further advice but don't waste your time or money with a lawyer. If you have a DMCA template as I've given, it's minutes.

[SammiValentine]

There are affordable ways to fight this, and save your time for what you do best. As I posted earlier. x I know it seems unfair but many businesses have to pay to protect their product, thats how I look at it.

[Tara Emory]

Yes, it's true. I do need to stay on top of this.

No, I know I'm not the first person who has thought of suing (or has). A simple search shows that it's happening all the time.

http://gigaom.com/video/porn-studio-...e-wants-1-35m/

wow.. reading about that lawsuit (which sadly, they think is going nowhere)- they're only citing 20,000 views of one title- I've had one (albeit short) video that's gotten 745,000 views in 565 days!

You know, I can take one or two videos being posted that maybe drive some traffic to my site. But rampant theft of 65+ videos... all with people posting comments about how much they like and admire me (when I want to fucking rip their heads off!)

So these sites have the law protecting them. How?

-Tara

[LibertyHarkness]

it sucks but its how it is these days ..

also many of the bigger tube sites are not applicable to uk/usa law .. as the sites are not hosted in the usa/eu ....so there is nothing to be done .

[GroobySteven]

it sucks but its how it is these days ..

also many of the bigger tube sites are not applicable to uk/usa law .. as the sites are not hosted in the usa/eu ....so there is nothing to be done .

Not entirely correct. Firstly, almost everyone of them is hosted in the US/Europe, secondly if they're using a .com/.net or other US type domain name there can be action taken there and finally, if they're taking any type of billing it's almost always US/Euro based.
Tube sites can run with impunity until someone proves (as has been done) that they're breaking the DMCA safe harbour.

[Tara Emory]

And no, I don't think I'm the first person who has thought of suing- it's just that so many people sorta have this attitude of "meh" about it, and those people running those sites count on that to keep letting them get away with it.

I would be very interested in being a party in a group lawsuit. When one considers the amount of views my videos gets on a site like this- in proportion to what I make on my own website I think the words "damages" can be substantial- even if the prospect of making anything off a lawsuit seems like small potatoes to a big producer.

[SammiValentine]

For a fee the equivalent of an evening or two on webcam or say 2 clients can pay for pornguardian for a month.

Fight the good fight!

[GroobySteven]

Yes, it's true. I do need to stay on top of this.

No, I know I'm not the first person who has thought of suing (or has). A simple search shows that it's happening all the time.

http://gigaom.com/video/porn-studio-...e-wants-1-35m/

wow.. reading about that lawsuit (which sadly, they think is going nowhere)- they're only citing 20,000 views of one title- I've had one (albeit short) video that's gotten 745,000 views in 565 days!

You know, I can take one or two videos being posted that maybe drive some traffic to my site. But rampant theft of 65+ videos... all with people posting comments about how much they like and admire me (when I want to fucking rip their heads off!)

So these sites have the law protecting them. How?

-Tara

Tube sites notoriously lie about the amount of views a video has, this is so they can try and sell their traffic for more and so people think their site is more popular than it actually is.
Ripping ONE video is a breach of your copyright, ripping the whole site is more than malicious.
The law protecting them is the DMCA law, set up so hosts and user uploaded sites like Youtube, Facebook couldn't be sued for content that one of their users uploaded as long as they took the relevant action.

If you can find the uploader as we've managed to do (watch this space) or prove that the tube site's didn't behave correctly DMCA law, then you might have them. Currently Oron which is a filelocker is being sued by a number of companies, which we're following closely, this is actually far worse than a tube site so it's going to be great to see them burn.

[SammiValentine]

And no, I don't think I'm the first person who has thought of suing- it's just that so many people sorta have this attitude of "meh" about it, and those people running those sites count on that to keep letting them get away with it.

I would be very interested in being a party in a group lawsuit. When one considers the amount of views my videos gets on a site like this- in proportion to what I make on my own website I think the words "damages" can be substantial- even if the prospect of making anything off a lawsuit seems like small potatoes to a big producer.

A lot more of your stuff (far worse) will have been shared in various other places, such as these twats who currently have their e-pants round their ankles, lets hop they get their backdolors smashed in

http://www.xbiz.com/news/150302


The industry is fighting back , its just a very hard fight. Especially in these global economic conditions.