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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    Tube sites notoriously lie about the amount of views a video has, this is so they can try and sell their traffic for more and so people think their site is more popular than it actually is.
    Ripping ONE video is a breach of your copyright, ripping the whole site is more than malicious.
    The law protecting them is the DMCA law, set up so hosts and user uploaded sites like Youtube, Facebook couldn't be sued for content that one of their users uploaded as long as they took the relevant action.

    If you can find the uploader as we've managed to do (watch this space) or prove that the tube site's didn't behave correctly DMCA law, then you might have them. Currently Oron which is a filelocker is being sued by a number of companies, which we're following closely, this is actually far worse than a tube site so it's going to be great to see them burn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tara Emory View Post
    And no, I don't think I'm the first person who has thought of suing- it's just that so many people sorta have this attitude of "meh" about it, and those people running those sites count on that to keep letting them get away with it.

    I would be very interested in being a party in a group lawsuit. When one considers the amount of views my videos gets on a site like this- in proportion to what I make on my own website I think the words "damages" can be substantial- even if the prospect of making anything off a lawsuit seems like small potatoes to a big producer.
    You're preaching to the converted. I've been trying to get people onto this for years and only a handful have came forward and offered (like Ms. Valentine, Krissy, etc.) most of the bigger companies are too lazy or just making enough money of their models sites to really bother about working with others. A group of us on an tranny adult webmaster board (see PM) have been active against pirates for a few yrs by working together, this includes Ecstatic, Krissy, LB69 group, etc. and Grooby has had a lot of success against piracy and known as a company that has quite the opposite to the "meh" attitude.
    I've had to learn in the past few yrs that as passionate as I can be about this and helping people out with anti-piracy, hasn't returned the same favours from those other companies, so we've became more insular and watched out for ourselves as well as few solo girls and friends/colleagues websites.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    You're preaching to the converted. I've been trying to get people onto this for years and only a handful have came forward and offered (like Ms. Valentine, Krissy, etc.) most of the bigger companies are too lazy or just making enough money of their models sites to really bother about working with others. A group of us on an tranny adult webmaster board (see PM) have been active against pirates for a few yrs by working together, this includes Ecstatic, Krissy, LB69 group, etc. and Grooby has had a lot of success against piracy and known as a company that has quite the opposite to the "meh" attitude.
    I've had to learn in the past few yrs that as passionate as I can be about this and helping people out with anti-piracy, hasn't returned the same favours from those other companies, so we've became more insular and watched out for ourselves as well as few solo girls and friends/colleagues websites.
    I was going to start a thread on this to not derail Tara's vent, but since you raised it here, I'll say I'm grateful for Grooby's work in this area both as a model and as a content owner. When I first signed up for the Grooby Network, the anti-piracy elements were touted as a key part of what they offered. At the time I dismissed it, but now that I'm knee deep in, I'm grateful for it. Grooby has been at the forefront of the fight for the TS porn Industry and has gone above and beyond in the fight for interests beyond their own. I honestly don't think you all get your fair due for the efforts you have made on behalf of everyone.

    Tara, listen to Seanchai on this... he's spot on.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendy Summers View Post

    Tara, listen to Seanchai on this... he's spot on.
    I think this is a first for me!
    Thanks Wendy!



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    I think this is a first for me!
    Thanks Wendy!
    Don't let it get to your head.



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    Sometimes prevention is better than cure and protecting your livlihood also means investing money in the things we usually don't think matter. Many adult websites have all their content deeply embedded making it difficult to be be ripped and stolen digitally. You might want to have your site redesigned this way, it wont necessarily be expensive - you just have to know what to ask for then get people to test it throughly.

    If your sites security is outdated or badly designed then all it takes is one idiot to download all of your work and share it for free. The worst part is if they are a member they can keep doing it with whatever you upload.

    Redesign the site, get professionals to close the loopholes and give it a fresh facelist to entice new customers and old customers back.



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    Quote Originally Posted by spko View Post
    Sometimes prevention is better than cure and protecting your livlihood also means investing money in the things we usually don't think matter. Many adult websites have all their content deeply embedded making it difficult to be be ripped and stolen digitally. You might want to have your site redesigned this way, it wont necessarily be expensive - you just have to know what to ask for then get people to test it throughly.

    If your sites security is outdated or badly designed then all it takes is one idiot to download all of your work and share it for free. The worst part is if they are a member they can keep doing it with whatever you upload.

    Redesign the site, get professionals to close the loopholes and give it a fresh facelist to entice new customers and old customers back.
    I am in a bad mood right now so I will respond to this. Ummm... NO.

    You can have all the security in the world but if someone wants to rip your site, they're going to do it. All you're basically stating is that it is up to the owners to pour resources into protecting what is rightfully theirs... which is like saying if you don't want to get your house broken into, then you need to put up fences and hire a security firm... otherwise, well, too bad for you.

    How about individual responsibility and respecting the rights that people have as creators of content? Let's start the conversation there. This approach is a non-starter to me.

    And you're wrong... investing in security protocols for an independent site (and I'd imagine even for a larger company) IS expensive... prohibitively so.


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    The funny thing is you can't download anything from her site. I was a member there were no download options.



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    Quote Originally Posted by spko View Post
    Sometimes prevention is better than cure and protecting your livlihood also means investing money in the things we usually don't think matter. Many adult websites have all their content deeply embedded making it difficult to be be ripped and stolen digitally. You might want to have your site redesigned this way, it wont necessarily be expensive - you just have to know what to ask for then get people to test it throughly.

    If your sites security is outdated or badly designed then all it takes is one idiot to download all of your work and share it for free. The worst part is if they are a member they can keep doing it with whatever you upload.

    Redesign the site, get professionals to close the loopholes and give it a fresh facelist to entice new customers and old customers back.
    Sorry mate, ABSOLUTE rubbish. I don't know a site that can't be copied no matter what they do digitally. That's a fact. We're not dealing with amateur surfers we're dealing with people who generally do this for a living (albeit illegal).
    The most you'd do is have a lot of pissed off members because they'd have software issues or would want to download the content.



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    Quote Originally Posted by seanchai View Post
    It's not a free site, it's a stolen content site. Any producers working with them are engaging in helping them remain a stolen content site. The numbers of people who may join from one of these sites is so minimum it's not worth it (which is why you generally see higher ticketed banners like personals sites, viagra, electronic cigarettes etc. advertised.
    Honestly, I didn't realise/didn't really rationalise whether it was probably totally illegal until you posted this, but frankly, given I pay well over £500 a year on various sites and contribute in plenty of other ways, I'm going to manage to sleep OK and continue to use the site. If it gets shut down, honestly, that'd be a pity for me for pure variety reasons, but not exactly catastrophic to my porn experience.



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