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    Do you have trust issues? Do you constantly fear that you are being manipulated?

    I'm surprised at the sudden abundance of manipulation themes in porn and in the mainstream media. Perhaps it makes an interesting storyline, especially beneficial to setup "twists". But in porn, it starting to become a trend as a fetish.

    Wouldn't it be more wonderful if the relationship is mutual, rather than one is dominant over the other? We won't go into the fine intricacies, because we all know that there is such a thing as topping from the bottom.

    Anyway, since this is a lazy afternoon, I'm thinking that this could be something that is interesting to discuss.

    For those that would rather not discuss philosophy, should your advantage of sexual attractiveness gives you the right to manipulate your partner? OK, perhaps, those are just innocent/playfull gestures. But as we all know, power corrupts.



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    Quote Originally Posted by evilernie View Post
    Do you have trust issues? Do you constantly fear that you are being manipulated?

    I'm surprised at the sudden abundance of manipulation themes in porn and in the mainstream media. Perhaps it makes an interesting storyline, especially beneficial to setup "twists". But in porn, it starting to become a trend as a fetish.

    Wouldn't it be more wonderful if the relationship is mutual, rather than one is dominant over the other? We won't go into the fine intricacies, because we all know that there is such a thing as topping from the bottom.

    Anyway, since this is a lazy afternoon, I'm thinking that this could be something that is interesting to discuss.

    For those that would rather not discuss philosophy, should your advantage of sexual attractiveness gives you the right to manipulate your partner? OK, perhaps, those are just innocent/playfull gestures. But as we all know, power corrupts.
    Good post. This is an issue in just about all relationships. One person is afraid that the other only likes them for their money, the other for their looks, or brains, or prestige. If that's really the basis of someone's love then the relationship usually won't last.

    But as for your last question, absolutely not. It's usually hard to nail down why someone is with someone else but if the girl is a 10 and the guy is a 7, he might want to ask himself the tough questions. It's not cynical, but he should ask if she's with him because she doesn't like being alone for the time being, or as a crutch. Will she leave at the first sign of opportunity or hardship?

    I've seen a lot of cuckold porn out there. This seems to play on the guy's deep-seated fear of his wife finding another man more desirable. So where is the eroticism you might ask? I'm not sure, but he faces his fear and learns to enjoy watching his wife get screwed by another guy.



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    Quote Originally Posted by broncofan View Post
    Good post. This is an issue in just about all relationships. One person is afraid that the other only likes them for their money, the other for their looks, or brains, or prestige. If that's really the basis of someone's love then the relationship usually won't last.

    But as for your last question, absolutely not. It's usually hard to nail down why someone is with someone else but if the girl is a 10 and the guy is a 7, he might want to ask himself the tough questions. It's not cynical, but he should ask if she's with him because she doesn't like being alone for the time being, or as a crutch. Will she leave at the first sign of opportunity or hardship?

    I've seen a lot of cuckold porn out there. This seems to play on the guy's deep-seated fear of his wife finding another man more desirable. So where is the eroticism you might ask? I'm not sure, but he faces his fear and learns to enjoy watching his wife get screwed by another guy.
    Physical and emotional attraction doesn't have to be about looks, although they do play a huge part initially. If you go into a relationship with that sort of mistrust and insecurity, it's hardly surprising that it turns into something unequal. Call me a sad romantic if you like, but it's always worked that way for me.


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    It could just be as subtle as what we experience in our daily lives.

    Does a waitress deserve extra tip because she flirted with you a little versus one that gave your an equal "but just friendly" service?



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    Quote Originally Posted by robertlouis View Post
    Physical and emotional attraction doesn't have to be about looks, although they do play a huge part initially. If you go into a relationship with that sort of mistrust and insecurity, it's hardly surprising that it turns into something unequal. Call me a sad romantic if you like, but it's always worked that way for me.
    I've met women that I wasn't attracted to initially at first glance but the way they acted around me and toward me made me attracted to them.

    I have trust issues like anyone else. To the best of my knowledge, I have not been cheated on by a girlfriend. To the best of my knowledge. But, from working in night clubs for years, I have witnessed or heard about people committing unbelievable acts of betrayal to each other in relationships. I would never want to experience that first hand as I wouldn't handle it well. I think I've been lucky in my life.



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    Manipulation comes in all forms at all extremes. even in a supposedly equal relationship someone always wants to pick what to watch that day or what is for dinner that night. One person always primarily controls the finances and the other day to day household operations. It is all a grab for the upper hand even if you don't know you are doing it. Are you being nice to your wife to get some head? Does she know that and do it anyway so you over look the shoes she just bought. Did you ignore the shoes because your weekend with the guys is coming up? Is she ok with that because she has got a spa day that saturday and wants you gone when her and the girls start pouring wine. I don't fear being manipulated because there is no way to avoid it and like anything else it is ok in moderation.



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