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[robertlouis]

If Jesus showed up our government would have him in jail by next week...

There is nothing wrong with Faith but "Religion" seems to always get the wrong message as in this case.

Note to Robertlouis:

Limiting freedom of speech is a slippery slope but in this case when preaching violence I would say its justified

I wont be holding my breath that anything will happen just for suggesting violence against gay children... its not like the guy protested the right carry a set of nail clippers through a TSA check point after all...

yeah Sarcasam but its biting

Thanks Tempest. In the UK we have made legal moves to limit hate and other inflammatory speech where it is designed to promote racial hatred and potential violence. It extends not only to public speeches, pamphlets etc, but also to posts on social media sites. It is as you say a slippery slope, but on balance it's better to have it, otherwise if one gay kid is hurt or worse by someone who's listened to Harris, he can carry on with apparent impunity.

[VictoriaVeil]

As my good pal Sarah Palin would say, you gotta love the kids and if it was my momma who the pastor was a talking to I'd of let mama grizzly come out with her shotgun and show he pastor what justafiable homicide is all aboot!

[fred41]

Thanks Tempest. In the UK we have made legal moves to limit hate and other inflammatory speech where it is designed to promote racial hatred and potential violence. It extends not only to public speeches, pamphlets etc, but also to posts on social media sites. It is as you say a slippery slope, but on balance it's better to have it, otherwise if one gay kid is hurt or worse by someone who's listened to Harris, he can carry on with apparent impunity.

I disagree...if that were the case no one would ever know, outside of his cult, that this is what the asshole preaches. The laundry is out in the open. His bleating sheep will follow his advice regardless whether the public knows about it or not.
Better to know the enemy.

[robertlouis]

I disagree...if that were the case no one would ever know, outside of his cult, that this is what the asshole preaches. The laundry is out in the open. His bleating sheep will follow his advice regardless whether the public knows about it or not.
Better to know the enemy.

I don't disagree. But what happens if those who follow him take his advice and start beating up gay children? Are they responsible on their own or should he be prosecuted as well?

[TempestTS]

I disagree...if that were the case no one would ever know, outside of his cult, that this is what the asshole preaches. The laundry is out in the open. His bleating sheep will follow his advice regardless whether the public knows about it or not.
Better to know the enemy.

I believe the "Limiting" of hate speech that incites violence wasnt in reference to keeping it from the public eye but holding those who promote it legally punishable regardless of where it appears.

Im personally glad that social media sites have made this type of thing very hard to keep under wraps. In the days of strictly print media it was possible for something like this to go undiscovered by much of the public because there simply was no way of getting the word out... now one person with a cell phone can post a youtube clip or twitter post and it gets spread to millions within hours.

Hate is a dirty secret that we will no longer allow those responsible to keep hidden.

[fred41]

I don't disagree. But what happens if those who follow him take his advice and start beating up gay children? Are they responsible on their own or should he be prosecuted as well?

They are probably already taking his advice...not because he gives it....that's probably just a rationalization for it.

[Ben]

Maybe he's gay like ol' Teddy:

[GrimFusion]

I have a hunch Pastor Harris has been secretly flying out to NYC on church money and getting fucked up the ass so often you could park a bus in his colon.

I mean look at the guys expression, you dont get your face frozen in that expression unless you have been doing some serious grunting on big dick.

Ha ha ha ha ha! Tempest, you're fuckin' awesome.

[GrimFusion]

I disagree...if that were the case no one would ever know, outside of his cult, that this is what the asshole preaches. The laundry is out in the open. His bleating sheep will follow his advice regardless whether the public knows about it or not.
Better to know the enemy.

The video was uploaded by his "bleating sheep", so somebody in his congregation must be intelligent enough to know his message was outrageously off-color. This wouldn't be a story if Harris had kept this conversation private, but preaching it in front of a packed church isn't keeping the message private and that's where he done fucked up.

I really don't like to assume that church patrons are a bunch of dim-witted sheeple that blindly follow any message a pastor or priest happen to spoon feed them. Faith isn't synonymous with a lack of intelligence. Sometimes it'd seem that way, especially to atheists like me; but it's not reality... it's an intellectual cop-out.

[nonnonnon]

what's your stance on spanking?