Why do most TS admirer/chasers wouldnt tell they had sex with a guy before?

[nonnonnon]

woah it's yasmin

[amberskyi]

I continue to find it curious that TS girls will insist that men who enjoy their sexuality are bi-sexual. I do not claim to be straight. But I know from trying sex with men that i am certainly not bisexual. I enjoy sex with GGs and with TS girls and, occasionally, with a very convincing TV. I have genuinely plumbed the depths of my own sexual identity to see if i am attracted to men as men and I find that I really am not. I feel convinced this must be true for many other men here. There is no easy label for us (confused?) but I think bisexuality is not accurate. A bisexual - as far as I am aware - is someone who is attracted to men and women (and those in between).

while im not saying being into me makes anyone gay but knowing im a ts (espically that im post-op) makes any man mildly bi-sexual.the more cock oriented the guy is the more bi-sexual he is.i have a penis theres no way around that.i have to be honest enough with myself and know that while i am a woman im not a female.i was born a man have male sex organs that i use for sexual pleasure.
if a guy was truly straight he would want nothing to do with me because of my lack of a vagina.
my boyfriend identifies with being bi-sexual even tho he's not attracted to males...its interesting that he's the first truly completely open and accepting relationship i've ever had.i wonder if that has something to do with his acceptance of who he is and his sexuality..hmmm.ive dated two completely straight identifying men before him and both kept me a secret in different ways and had other various hang ups.

[londonpirate]

the same damn thing could be said to clients...
we're not here to fall in love with you or even be genuinely attracted/turned on by you.so stop fucking asking me out on dates,asking if i really enjoyed it,or calling me to just fucking shoot the breeze.
i provide a fantasy (and a damn good one at that).i hate when guys confuse it for reality....

Look I completely agree with this. The topic started with a provider showing us her inquisitive and mildly annoying side. I might have been a bit direct in my comments but I think most people would agree. If this topic had been on guy confusing paid sex for romance trust me I would have said the same thing.

[londonpirate]

You're directing this at me? What does lying and prostitution have to do with one another? Because I escorted, I'm somehow dishonest? LOL How so? If anthing, escorts are more up front and we don't judge you, so you don't have to lie. I understand why men lie. I never said judged them for it . Don't be so resentful. If you have a guilty conscience about lying, you don't have any reason to point your finger at me, you bitter weirdo.

I wasnt talking to you..nevermind

[fred41]

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

Yup....it's self perpetuating: it starts with parents , then peers ...with every lie we dig a deeper hole, making it that much harder to ever tell the truth. Fortunately, at some point, sometimes we reach an age where we don't give a fuck anymore...the obvious down side being: being old.

The only thing I might change in your statement is the word "men". "People" lie about sex. Women are pressured to lie also...just that the lies are geared slightly different.

As far as the OP is concerned: I'm not sure that there really is a correlation between liking TS and bisexuality...or simply liking men. I'm sure that there are plenty of men who may be secretly bisexual (or some "gray scale" version of it)..who have no real interest in TS. A GG escort might ask the same question but receive fewer honest answers, because male clients would view a TS as being more understanding about it than a GG.




...what's really funny is: how many serious replies Alyssa still gets on these threads (that she has a history of posting)...myself included...lol.

[amberskyi]

Look I completely agree with this. The topic started with a provider showing us her inquisitive and mildly annoying side. I might have been a bit direct in my comments but I think most people would agree. If this topic had been on guy confusing paid sex for romance trust me I would have said the same thing.

see...your the type of client i prefer...respect and discretion both ways

[Queens Guy]

Maybe some of the guys are lying just because they think they'll have a better experience with you. That you will be more 'thrilled' to be his first. Although you say you find it sexier if the reverse were true.

If he knew what turned you on more, even if it was his first time, he might lie about that and say he's been in all male gangbangs and loves being on the receiving end of a bukkake party. Just to get you turned on.

Maybe it's part of his 'fantasy' to have the escort be 'his first one'. And your client is the one that's paying for the fantasy.

[KittyPride]

Men tend to lie about sex a lot to everyone, always. They lie to their families as teenagers, saying they're not having it. At the same time they lie to their friends, telling them they are having it. Then they get out of high school and lie about whether they were with prostitutes or had gay experiences. They lie about how much they even understand their own sexuality in the first place. They often date and marry women just to make sure they don't have to live with the embarrassment of not being a "man" by society's standards, and start living an even bigger lie. And in the relationship, they lie to their GFs and wives about what's going on in their minds regarding their sexual fantasies.

So by the time they get to us, and tell us lies about whether or not they've had sex with men, lying about sex is just a routine occurrence in their lives. How screwed up and fearful they must be, to have to lie so much. All that lying is what makes the world so insane. As a transsexual, I got over what people thought of me years ago. It feels good to not have to lie about myself.

Such truthfull analyses of men.

On this board Ive talked to a few guys that more or less expect I would be somehow like them. Hiding, feeling embassed... being secretive....like i did not get over that.
The only way to survive I think is complete acceptence of yourself and the only way to live a happy life is to accept and persue what you really want..

There is no time for bullshit like that, I dont have hetersosexual lifestyle for an aliby.
I am completely naked. And that is my strength. Because most people are very fearfull and afraid of what others might think and say.

I cant live my life if that was the first thing that was on my mind each morning.

[londonpirate]

see...your the type of client i prefer...respect and discretion both ways

Well hit me up when you're in london darling, might break my "no more escorts" vow for you

[Nicole Dupre]

I know that I may be in the minority here with a few the girls on this topic, especially after hearing what Amber, Kelly, and even Ashley believe. And I do understand what they're saying but I think they're wrong. I don't think having cocks in your ass or mouth necessarily makes you gay. It's whose cock is in your mouth or ass that makes you gay or bi. A man can kiss a man or a woman on the lips. Both have lips. But if he wants to kiss a woman, that's a heterosexual urge. If he wants to kiss a man, that's a gay urge. If you want to discuss this stuff, you need to be accurate. Anal and oral pleasure is not sexual attraction. If a man wants to fuck both men and women, that's bi. Wanting to fuck a M2F TS is not bi and it is not gay. Gay men don't want to fuck trannies. Straight men do, but they also want something in their ass or mouth to go along with the experience.

Listen. If I was gay, and having sex with me was gay, I wouldn't give a fuck at all. I'd say so. I'd say that I'm a queer for being a M2F TS and you're a queer for letting me fuck you. I'd have no issue with spelling that out if it was a fact. But it's not.

As for men being dishonest, I pity them to some degree. But there comes a time in everyone's life that you at least have to be honest with yourself. Once you do that, you can be honest with anyone on your own terms and feel ok about it. If you choose not to, you may have a good reason, like survival in world full of predatory bigots. So ok. Then maybe you need to be discreet and maintain your privacy. But beyond a certain point, what kind of life are you living? And to be so fucked up that you feel ashamed to tell an escort what you're into? lol C'mon. You're already paying to suck our dicks and let us fuck you. Do you think learning about you having sex with a straight up dude is going to blow our minds? Get fucking real. lol

I put nothing past anyone. I've had all types of clients. Some were truly fucked up people who have done extremely fucked up things. There are lots of skeletons in those closets. Nothing shocks me.