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    To be in the profession I was in , I was forced to join the union. This was anathema to everything I believed in...especially in a right to work state. I tried to keep my dues from being directed toward liberal politicians against my will, but had no voice in that. Neither did anyone else in the union.

    That union was full of officers who could never get work in the real world, so they ran for office rather than get try to get a real job.

    If unions ever employ more than 25% of our work force in America in the future, we will be a totally socialist state.


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    The level of ignorance and stupidity from a few people here is astonishing. That vicious fool OMK again repeats his lies about me. He has no evidence - as seems to be his practice in almost all things. Present the evidence you idiot or shut the fuck up.

    And now another little racist and fool slips into view - yourdaddy with his silly remarks about Obama being a jew and a muslim. No point in arguing with those who are so distant from intelligence really. And as for being in a union - yes actually dear Floridian redneck - I was in a union from the day i started my working life until about 10 years ago when it ceased to have any useful function in my working life.

    I don't judge America by these craven nincompoops. I have family and friends galore there - on all sides of the political spectrum - and most of the Americans posting here are intelligent people. People who think and argue instead of offering a tirade of lies and bile. OMK by contrast finds it fitting to insult those of us from Europe just for being from here. Jerk.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdaddy View Post
    To be in the profession I was in , I was forced to join the union. This was anathema to everything I believed in...especially in a right to work state. I tried to keep my dues from being directed toward liberal politicians against my will, but had no voice in that. Neither did anyone else in the union.

    That union was full of officers who could never get work in the real world, so they ran for office rather than get try to get a real job.

    If unions ever employ more than 25% of our work force in America in the future, we will be a totally socialist state.
    Wait a minute, lad. I've been in a union my entire adult life. My union and every other union I have personal knowledge of has a voluntary PAC contribution form that we sign to allow a small wage deduction for the PAC. Note the word 'voluntary'. Are you claiming that your union didn't operate that way?

    BTW, I was the president of my union for many years. I chaired the meetings of the regular membership and the Executive Board, signed all the union checks and participated in contract negotiations. I also filled in for the Business Manager when he was not available. My compensation for that was a whopping $150 per month. I also served as Secretary Treasurer of our PAC fund, for which I was paid nothing. During the day I busted my ass on construction sites with the rest of my union brothers and sisters.

    When you're done whining about dues and PAC contributions, you might want to thank your union for the better wages, benefits and conditions you enjoyed as a member.

    Nugent is a noisy fool.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yourdaddy View Post
    To be in the profession I was in , I was forced to join the union. This was anathema to everything I believed in...especially in a right to work state. I tried to keep my dues from being directed toward liberal politicians against my will, but had no voice in that. Neither did anyone else in the union.

    That union was full of officers who could never get work in the real world, so they ran for office rather than get try to get a real job.

    If unions ever employ more than 25% of our work force in America in the future, we will be a totally socialist state.
    France and UK are so called socialist states, yet, they're fairly conservative by european standards. Canada is by some definitions a socialist state; and other than a few nutjobs, I don't recall anyone ever calling these countries socialist/communist without knowing what the term means.

    As for a union. Are you sure you've ever been a member of an actual union? Are you sure you're even employed and not living off foodstamps? That's pretty socialist too. You don't actually have to join a union. There might be some peer pressure in some professions, but you don't have to. Resigning from a union is a little harder than it should be, but that's it.

    Anyway, you're completely missing the point on unions, and why they're a useless extension of bureaucracy. Every year, or every few years, the interest goes up. You suddenly find yourself with less money in your pocket and eventually your union might decide to go on strike if its demands for a raise aren't met. Except this raise never covers more than the interest, usually less because of you union dues--so your union is nothing more than workingclass placebo that makes someone think they're getting paid more.

    You'd be getting an actual raise if you instead quit every few years, threw in some additional training or education and demanded a bigger paycheck.



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    Nugent is crazy. So many Americans have been programmed by constant mantras that they believe certain things to be true even if they clearly aren't. People said Obama was born overseas and repeated it over and over and some poor people actually believe it even though the proof is very clear. The sad thing in America is the min wage is below the poverty line and the South is poorer in the north but the Republicans have run a line for so long that people in the south believe the Dems want to tax them into oblivion when higher taxes on the rich wouldn't effect them in the slightest. There's no need for the levels of poverty, crime etc in the US but the top 2% of people can live like French Royalty as long as around 50% of the bottom 98% allow themselves to elect people who want that status quo to continue.



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    OMK sounds like old racist, "Dark Thanos".



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    FIRST- Ted Nugent has not been musically relevent in a couple generations. He was reduced to the State Fair circuit, then he got his career going again with reality shows and this NRA schtick.

    SECOND- There was a blurb in the paper today, that in person alone with college educated individuals....George Bush gained 60 IQ points.

    In Conservative (hick) circles, trying to be the smartest person in the room, CHALLENGING your peers, is considered impolite. Uppity. Talking down to somebody, they don't hear your point, they hear you talking down.

    In the weirdest way possible, I don't think OMK and DADDY are trying to be offensive. They're being defensive. Of their friends, family, and local community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buttslinger View Post
    FIRST- Ted Nugent has not been musically relevent in a couple generations. He was reduced to the State Fair circuit, then he got his career going again with reality shows and this NRA schtick.
    He was playing the dog track in Hollywood, FL about 7 years ago. lol



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    Perspective




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    Quote Originally Posted by doctor screw View Post
    perspective

    lmfao!



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