Men on dating ts women

[MrsKellyPierce]

I think is trust btw both partenrs on a first date .

How can you trust anyone meeting them one day? lol

I mean that's a lot of trust to give

That's like playing Russian roulette

[EvonRose]

[QUOTE=KellyShore;1120943]Most men that want that were "tranny chasers" at one time..

They didn't know in the beginning a transsexual is what they wanted..

They had to sleep around and test the waters...

And then own who they are..

That all took time and trial and error

Before my husband and I were together he slept around with loads of women and a handful of transsexuals..some that I knew...

Does it bother me..NO...I'm secure and know he loves me....

There is no scientific facts that everyone see's Ts women in a fetish at first. that is false.

Documented cases have said straight men dated post op women and even married them knowing this fact. So a straight man married a post op, does not make him a chaser not because of the cock situation, it's because he fully embraced her as a woman.

Liking a ts woman is like liking a gg woman, it's a feminine form, It's biologically impossible for a man to turn a beautiful feminine woman down.

Watching porn, fantasizing doe snot classify any man as a chaser. it's the actions of a man towards ts women.

I don't think it's silly at all, if a ts wants to have a meaningful relationship she should def filter out the guys she dates.

[tsadriana]

I mean it's not hard to figure out when a guy isn't ready to commit to a relationship with a trans...

If you like his personality..keep him in the friend category..maybe after he sees who you are and how the world around you treats you..he would be more willing to commit or date on something more serious...

I find patience is needed..just like patience is needed with a transsexual who is pretty much transitioned with a transsexual who is just starting..it can be annoying but I always try to give advice and be uplifting...

I find some just need to be taught and given a chance..

Very true ....Always on a first date i tend to be dressed more classy ...who knows maybe not every men taste the classy fashion,when becomes about dinner date in a posj restaurant i know that the best wardrobe is the classy one.x

[MrsKellyPierce]

[quote=EvonRose;1120959]

Most men that want that were "tranny chasers" at one time..

They didn't know in the beginning a transsexual is what they wanted..

They had to sleep around and test the waters...

And then own who they are..

That all took time and trial and error

Before my husband and I were together he slept around with loads of women and a handful of transsexuals..some that I knew...

Does it bother me..NO...I'm secure and know he loves me....

There is no scientific facts that everyone see's Ts women in a fetish at first. that is false.

Documented cases have said straight men dated post op women and even married them knowing this fact. So a straight man married a post op, does not make him a chaser not because of the cock situation, it's because he fully embraced her as a woman.

Liking a ts woman is like liking a gg woman, it's a feminine form, It's biologically impossible for a man to turn a beautiful feminine woman down.

Watching porn, fantasizing doe snot classify any man as a chaser. it's the actions of a man towards ts women.

I don't think it's silly at all, if a ts wants to have a meaningful relationship she should def filter out the guys she dates.

That's a lot different than a pre-operative transsexual and especially a pre-operative transsexual that's an escort..

A lot of men have issues with girls who escort and wont take them serious or as wife material..so how do you expect them to treat you?

[EvonRose]

I think too many people base their relationship on SEX..and it's the reason it doesn't last and the reason people cheat...and the reason so many can't stand being at home with their significant other...cause the romance died..you gotta have more than that..

and if you look up studies - I would be right on my stance..especially on one night stands

I agree on this, and men tend to base a lot of it on sex...

[ed_jaxon]

I believe what pops always told me to be true.

Offer no information but if asked....look em in the eye and answer their question truthfully.

Here is my problem, I like how my life is right now. I am so selfish right now that there is only room for one other person in my life.

I can buy hot. And I occasionally stumble up into some strange (more often than most)

Who would want a relationship with a guy like that?

I have no problem taking a girl out, bailing her out of a tight financial straight or accepting her lifestyle. Unfortunately there is a double standard which I am very cool with.

I am holding the best hand right now.

[tsadriana]

How can you trust anyone meeting them one day? lol

I mean that's a lot of trust to give

That's like playing Russian roulette

True Kelly .....I think when u make the eye contact on a first date u know straight away how the person feels about u...i din`t know that in the past but i know now.

[rockabilly]

Men have to chase you because you girls keep running.

[KelticForce1349]

Men, besides the obvious judgement and segregation that can come along with dating a transsexual women.

Is another reason it's hard to date trans-women because of the contempt many transsexual woman seem to have towards men?

I have never really understand the hate and how loosely the term "tranny chaser" is thrown about.

Also why the word shemale is such a sacrilege, besides it being a porn term. Some get mad, because of it having "male" in it. Well so does female = FE-MALE...

Then you got the transsexuals who want this prince charming sort of man that has never been with a transsexual and would never ever want to be with another transsexual besides her or be attracted to another transsexual. It's like get a GRIP on reality...

Then a man is called a 'tranny chaser' due to the fact he has slept around with so many girls. Well girls men do the same with women...and if they dated one tgirl he may want to date another tgirl...

Or how insensitive transsexuals are to the men who are interested in them. It's like don't you remember what it was like to come out to your friends and family, the male has to deal with something similar who dates you. If you just gave the guy a chance he may not be such a bad guy after all. I just find transsexuals seem to demonize men.

Lastly, porn girls that get so up in arms over the term shemale and go after companies like say Steven's because he uses the terminology shemale...BUT SWEETHEART noone is forcing you to pose for that site..if you don't want men to label you a shemale..why promote it by posing for the site? It's always been hypocritical to me. Can you really get mad if so and so who has never been with a ts just came from a porn site looking at your video called Shemale Fill in blank...calls you a hot "shemale"?? I mean girls will go off and get all bitchy..and then in turn the guy feeling attacked says something stupid and hurtful cause of it. Then it's like world war 500..why can't the transsexual pornstar just say sweety I prefer to be called whatever the case may be..instead of being a cunt about it? The guy under most circumstances will be respectful if he is treated respectfully.

I just find transsexuals in general like to play the victim and can be so hypocritical. Yet they want everyone to feel sorry for them or see things their way or have empathy for them. Yet they have no empathy or look at themselves in the mirror..

Do you think you would be more willing to date a transsexual woman if so many didn't have so many hang ups on men?

Or what is your perception...

I know this thread is going to cause a commotion and some hate...

But I think transsexuals have had their say on men on here 100 times over, so why not let the men INTELLECTUALLY (not disrespectfully) say theirs...

Just a few thoughts I had and a blog I want to write so it would be great to get some views from men..

WOW!!! Great post Kelly! I have contemplated talking about some of the things mentioned in your post for as long as I have been a member of this forum, ultimately I decided against it each time. I feared that I would be perceived as a troll and attacked/despised in the same way that Freddy seems to relish bringing upon himself.

It took me a very long time to understand that I was bisexual to some degree, maybe 25%? (Who knows, who cares?) It took a very long time to be truly accepting of my attraction to transsexual gals. Looking back I can see that when I was confused, ashamed, and fearful of that attraction I had more "sex appeal" in the eyes of the trans ladies I talked to then I did after I made peace with it.

When I truly just wanted to talk and try to learn they were so eager to quickly move things towards sex. Other than my very first physical experience with a t-girl the girls quickly seemed to lose interest. Once you lose your shiny new car smell the ladies are repelled by you. Have you ever tried anything with a t-girl like me? Well I once held hands with a t-girl while watching a movie and... Oh My gawd, you are just another tranny chaser creep. Get away from me!!!! Wait. Are you fucking serious? Yes I am serious. I thought you were a nice guy, you lied to me. You are just a creepy perv! Wait! How did I lie about anything? You asked a question and I answered it! Why are... Get the fuck away from me! Don't call me ever again! Asshole!

I have had this exact scenario play out several times. For what? What is my crime? The worst thing you could do to a transsexual is not to be a group of morons that jump out of a truck and bash her with a baseball bat; the worst thing to say is "I know that I often have an attraction to t-girls, I am super-attracted to you and I really want the chance to get to know you and see if this can become something meaningful." < Dead man walking.

That whole fantasy you mentioned about the 100% straight guy that falls for the tranny is all only real in the minds of the angry, dramatic, self-hating (?) t-girls that make that shit up. If you thought the movie "Pretty Woman" was bullshit, this is the sequel gone full-retard times 1000. Many of the t-girls that I know seem to be starved for love, yet they seem ferociously determined to remain that way. Is it damaged people shooting themselves in the foot again and again for the glory of martyrdom?

It kills me how they will treat you like shit if you meet them in one of the bars. They typically will tell you to get away because they don't want to meet someone "in one of the bars." They hate when I do this but I quickly turn the tables and ask them where else I could have met them? I tell them that they are usually cowards that go nowhere except the bars, the tanning salon, and the mailbox. How can I meet you out in the "regular world" if you seem so intent to avoid it?

Whatever the cause might be I find myself wrestling with both sadness/frustration that one door that is unexplored territory seems to be locked in front of me. On the other hand I cling to the hope that the door leading to the more familiar path with ultimately provide me with the satisfying loving relationship that I crave in my life. Only time will provide me with the answer I want, I just detest having my options being limited by others.

I don't wish to set off a fire-storm but I have felt for several years now that the self-destructive nature of the transsexual/trans-attracted group often mirrors much of the conflicted, and self-sabotaging behavior that sometimes occurs in parts of the black community. The overwhelming majority of us in the (GLBT) seem determined to continue demonizing and attacking each other (attacking ones own self) as (so many) people in the 100% straight community have taught us to do. Is we sick today master? I guess we is people.

[NrthAveBeach09]

Great Post Kelly !
First of all dating and relationships are challenging no matter what your persuasion or gender identity. As you pointed out, men and TS women dating have unique challenges meeting up and maintaining a relationship.
As a straight 30-something guy who has dated transsexual women since my mid 20's, I can tell you that the hardest thing for men is just finding TS women to ask out and date. I live in Chicago in an area called Wrigleyville where there are clubs and an active social scene for just about everyone, yet even here in one of the most diverse active cities in the country, it's not easy. I think a lot of TS prefer to just live as woman and keep their physical gender identity private. Just like the rest of the general population, not everyone is comfortable joining dating sites or putting themselves out there to go after what they really want.
The next biggest challenge dating TS women is the same challenge any two people face once they find mutual attraction with someone, trust. They're wondering if this person wants the same that thing they do. One person may want short and sweet the other may be looking more long term. The trust issue gets magnified between a guy and a TS woman because they just have a lot more questions between them to answer early on in a relationship. Is the guy serious or just looking to explore his curiosity? If she's living a life as a woman full time and keeps her gender identity private, will he out her? If he's not out with his own attractions yet, will she out him?
The whole outing issue has it's own drama. I'm completely out about my preference to ts women and can take a ts woman out, introduce her to friends and still there's some doubt in her mind that lingers until you fully demonstrate your outness. Here I think that has more to do with me than anything else. I have a pretty conservative corporate look and lifestyle, and a lot of woman find it hard to believe that a corporate guy would openly date a TS woman since so many will not. Lots of exceptions there in every direction that's just my personal experience. I'm just bringing up the outing issue because it's a big deal between a guy and a TS woman.

I'll close by saying to TS women, there's guys out there waiting to meet you who aren't all bad. If a straight guy does find a way to meet you, he's already put out an extra effort to find a woman like you, so you'd be right in being flattered and feeling good about it.

Thanks for the post Kelly!