Men on dating ts women

[ctparis]

Its just like anything else, somebody has fucked it up for you, so you have to deal with the fact that her guard will probably be up. It happens, at the end of the day the person you really are will show and she will see that ... hopefully lol.

[Lovecox]

Wow. This is my first reading of this thread. Thank you Kelly for saying something that should have been said a long time ago. I am a man who dates both women and TS's. Shemale, Transwoman, TS ... there will always be someone who will be offended by any term. I try to avoid the terms altogether. The world of porn has to create a term or title that will entice the potential buyer. Many straight porn titles are derogatory too if one takes them that way. I think there is a sense of camp and humor in most porn titles.

And thank you (I almost said 'God bless you' but then I remembered that I am an atheist) for touching on the subject of the 'tranny chaser'. I shake my head everytime I see an ad from a TS who is looking for 'straight guys only'. It always sounds to me like a hot dog wanting to be eaten by vegans only. I have a gay male friend who insists he only sleeps with straight guys. Ok. By definition a straight guy only sleeps with women. There are also men such as myself who sleep with both women and TS's but are not attracted to men. I hesitate to call myself Bi but I don't get offended if people do. The ironly is that a TS would look down on me for wanting to be with her. What kind of denial and self loathing accompanies that?

Again, thank you for your clarity, courage and compassion.

[MHarrigan82]

Wow. This is my first reading of this thread. Thank you Kelly for saying something that should have been said a long time ago. I am a man who dates both women and TS's. Shemale, Transwoman, TS ... there will always be someone who will be offended by any term. I try to avoid the terms altogether. The world of porn has to create a term or title that will entice the potential buyer. Many straight porn titles are derogatory too if one takes them that way. I think there is a sense of camp and humor in most porn titles.

And thank you (I almost said 'God bless you' but then I remembered that I am an atheist) for touching on the subject of the 'tranny chaser'. I shake my head everytime I see an ad from a TS who is looking for 'straight guys only'. It always sounds to me like a hot dog wanting to be eaten by vegans only. I have a gay male friend who insists he only sleeps with straight guys. Ok. By definition a straight guy only sleeps with women. There are also men such as myself who sleep with both women and TS's but are not attracted to men. I hesitate to call myself Bi but I don't get offended if people do. The ironly is that a TS would look down on me for wanting to be with her. What kind of denial and self loathing accompanies that?

Again, thank you for your clarity, courage and compassion.

Most of the transwomen that I have talk too, hate their penis and don't even like to look at it. Transwomen do not want a guy that is attracted to the part of their body that they despise and hate the most Most tgirls feel that guys who like their cock are closet homosexuals. I have been dating a preop transexual for four months never seen her cock. When we get intimate we kiss or she gives me oral sex. I have not had anal sex with her yet. She has not had sex in two years and that was with her ex-boyfriend of three years. She says that she will have protected anal sex with me but at the right moment. She plans on getting the SRS surgery within the next eighteeen months. She works for a major bank as a manager. I told her that I support her decision 100 percent. I perfer postop transwomen than preop.

[GrimFusion]

Most of the transwomen that I have talk too, hate their penis and don't even like to look at it. Transwomen do not want a guy that is attracted to the part of their body that they despise and hate the most Most tgirls feel that guys who like their cock are closet homosexuals. I have been dating a preop transexual for four months never seen her cock. When we get intimate we kiss or she gives me oral sex. I have not had anal sex with her yet. She has not had sex in two years and that was with her ex-boyfriend of three years. She says that she will have protected anal sex with me but at the right moment. She plans on getting the SRS surgery within the next eighteeen months. She works for a major bank as a manager. I told her that I support her decision 100 percent. I perfer postop transwomen than preop.

*cough*SUCKER!*cough*, *cough*.
It may sound petty, but sex and sexual compatibly are still integral parts of any mature adult relationship. I can respect that the two of you must have incredibly strong feelings for one-another if you've both agreed to abstain. You get my respect because I doubt many dudes would make that kind of a sacrifice. I wouldn't. It's admirable that you're respecting her space, but she should consider that perhaps she's not ready for a relationship. If she wants to wait until she can have sex as a woman, that's her business, but I don't understand why she'd want to drag dudes through long and sexless relationships for the sake of simple companionship. I guess it's none of my business so long as you're both chill with the arrangement. It just boggles my brain-matter a bit.

[archineer]

I'd quite happily date marry etc a t girl, I've just not met one who doesn't just see me as a giant cash machine (well there was the one who was just more interested in a visa.) It would be nice to find one who isn't just driven by money, I want a partner not a full time whore.

[archineer]

I don't get all this comparison. Maybe cos I'm only 20 odd and only slept with a few girls but to me a "TS" woman is a woman to me. I'll judge her the same as a woman. Nice figure, arse, a nice pair and looks..and of course a decent personality. Would treat her exactly like a woman, to me they're ladies with something extra. Would'nt care what my family said or if I'm out having a nice meal with her and someone said something, i'd tell em to fuck off.. I'd only have a relationship with a nice TS female anyway, same as a woman. So no one would'nt look twice..except her arse haha. Anyway all I am saying is I don't get that people would treat a TS woman different in a relationship cos shes a lady..

The thing is ts women are not like genetic women from a psychological point of view. They're not maternal in the way women are (i've never seen a ts gush over a baby the way women do) and very materialistic. Money is usually the icing on the cake for a genetic woman, they don't primarily go for guys for cash. How often do you see a fit young girl dating some 60 year old guy for his money? Not often, most girls just go for guys who are similar to themselves age, looks and status wise.

[archineer]

Most of the transwomen that I have talk too, hate their penis and don't even like to look at it. Transwomen do not want a guy that is attracted to the part of their body that they despise and hate the most Most tgirls feel that guys who like their cock are closet homosexuals. I have been dating a preop transexual for four months never seen her cock. When we get intimate we kiss or she gives me oral sex. I have not had anal sex with her yet. She has not had sex in two years and that was with her ex-boyfriend of three years. She says that she will have protected anal sex with me but at the right moment. She plans on getting the SRS surgery within the next eighteeen months. She works for a major bank as a manager. I told her that I support her decision 100 percent. I perfer postop transwomen than preop.

Actually I find its about 50/50.

[amberskyi]

The thing is ts women are not like genetic women from a psychological point of view. They're not maternal in the way women are (i've never seen a ts gush over a baby the way women do) and very materialistic. Money is usually the icing on the cake for a genetic woman, they don't primarily go for guys for cash. How often do you see a fit young girl dating some 60 year old guy for his money? Not often, most girls just go for guys who are similar to themselves age, looks and status wise.

really?? cause i know quite a few transwoman who are mothers.you might want to ask wendy summers or bella about their maternal behaviors before typing some ignorant sweeping generalization like this.
and what are you talking about? woman have been marrying for financial security for eons.what do you think arranged marriages were all about

[amberskyi]

*cough*SUCKER!*cough*, *cough*.
It may sound petty, but sex and sexual compatibly are still integral parts of any mature adult relationship. I can respect that the two of you must have incredibly strong feelings for one-another if you've both agreed to abstain. You get my respect because I doubt many dudes would make that kind of a sacrifice. I wouldn't. It's admirable that you're respecting her space, but she should consider that perhaps she's not ready for a relationship. If she wants to wait until she can have sex as a woman, that's her business, but I don't understand why she'd want to drag dudes through long and sexless relationships for the sake of simple companionship. I guess it's none of my business so long as you're both chill with the arrangement. It just boggles my brain-matter a bit.

simple answer because she like any other human being desires to be loved and cared for. if he's ok to wait for when she's comfortable for sexual expression than who cares.more men should be more empathetic and understanding when it comes to the sexual aspects of a relationship.sex is supposed to be enjoyable for both people.it shouldnt just be something we do to placate men.
plus who would want to have sex with someone knowing their not only enjoying it but could possibly be traumatic for them.

[GrimFusion]

simple answer because she like any other human being desires to be loved and cared for. if he's ok to wait for when she's comfortable for sexual expression than who cares.more men should be more empathetic and understanding when it comes to the sexual aspects of a relationship.sex is supposed to be enjoyable for both people.it shouldnt just be something we do to placate men.
plus who would want to have sex with someone knowing their not only enjoying it but could possibly be traumatic for them.

You've raised a few very valid points. Companionship can be important, it isn't any of my business and I don't care, really; there's a limit to empathy when even extremely respectful and and understanding men could simply say no and they have just as much right. Sex isn't intended to placate men and it is a mutual experience, but remove sex from the relationship entirely and he's left with blowjobs off of his girlfriend who's trying to placate him. Uh... yeah.

I certainly wouldn't want to force the issue of sex with a chick who was uncomfortable with it. I'd be more than willing to modify my sexual practices a little if I were emotionally attached, but if it meant a relationship without sex, I wouldn't stick around. Not because I demand sex in a relationship, but a relationship without sex just sounds weird, complicated, and frustrating. No more than dumb personal opinion, really. I understand where you're coming from though.