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04-03-2012 #1
GLAAD win's Miss Universe Debate
In the pageants!
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04-03-2012 #2
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Re: GLAAD win's Miss Universe Debate
I kind of wish pre-op trans chicks could compete though, but at least it's an improvement.
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04-03-2012 #3
Re: GLAAD win's Miss Universe Debate
Someday
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04-03-2012 #4
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http://www.queerty.com/glaad-gets-re...tion-20120403/
for all those that didn't know yet.
i wonder how this is going to affect the voting AND tv coverage of her
Let's face it...some women just look better with their clothes ON
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04-03-2012 #5
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Re: GLAAD win's Miss Universe Debate
The story isn't completely clear yet, here's more detail from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation:
The Miss Universe Organization says it might reverse an earlier decision and allow a transgender Vancouver woman to enter the Miss Universe Canada pageant.
Jenna Talackova, 23, was born male, leading organizers to disqualify her last month as a finalist in the 61st Miss Universe Canada pageant in May.
The rules of the contest run by Donald Trump's New York City-based organization say entrants must be "naturally born" females. Talackova underwent a sex change four years ago.
But shortly after Talackova announced a news conference in Los Angeles with high-profile lawyer Gloria Allred for Tuesday, the New York-based Miss Universe Organization said in a statement on the Miss Universe Canada website that Talackova can compete "provided she meets the legal gender recognition requirements of Canada, and the standards established by other international competitions."
The statement did not elaborate and messages seeking clarification from Miss Universe organizers were not immediately returned.
Vancouver constitutional lawyer Joe Arvay, who is on Talackova's legal team, told The Associated Press that Miss Universe Canada's latest statement about Canadian legal gender recognition requirements is "incomprehensible."
"I have no idea what they're talking about," he said.
Arvay said the pageant requirement for "natural born" females does not comply with Canadian human rights legislation and that a complaint will be filed with the Ontario Human Rights Commission.
"In the absence of clarity, we will be proceeding," Arvay said. "At the present time, it's gobbledygook."
Allred's office said its news conference is still proceeding as planned.
Transgender status no secret
The disqualification won Talackova widespread sympathy and raised the question of whether the pageant has the right to decide who is female.
Her change of gender was hardly a secret before the event because she had competed in the 2010 Tiffany Miss International Queen Competition for transgendered and transsexual women in Pattaya, Thailand. In a video interview for that pageant, she said she had lived her life as a female since age 4, began hormone therapy at 14 and changed sex at 19.
"I regard myself as a woman with a history," she said.
Connie McNaughton, Miss World Canada in 1984 and first runner-up for the world crown, had called the decision outdated and discriminatory. Prof. Patrizia Gentile of Ottawa's Carleton University, who did a dissertation on beauty pageants, equated the ban with the exclusion of blacks and Jews from pageants in earlier times.
From the conservative side of Canadian society, Gwen Landolt, national vice-president of REAL Women of Canada, said the pageant was simply being realistic in barring Talackova.
At least things are going in the right direction, and hopefully she will be allowed to compete.
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04-03-2012 #6
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Re: GLAAD win's Miss Universe Debate
For Canada, you'd need to update your birth certificate to show F instead of M.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changin...ment_in_Canada
It varies by province. There's no "legal gender recognition requirements" in Canada, as such. Not that I could find on a quick search, anyways. There's also some anti-discrimination stuff with the Ontario Human Rights Code that should be relevant
http://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/issues/gender_identity
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04-03-2012 #7
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Re: GLAAD win's Miss Universe Debate
Trans rights slowly march on. Someday we'll have all the rights we need but for now, we'll just have to make do with the little victories like this one.
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04-03-2012 #8
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bill o'reilly sticks up for transgender miss universe contestant, which suddenly makes me think there is more to this story....
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04-03-2012 #9
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Does anyone here know this girl in real life or spoken to her online?
I mean what sort of person competes openly in one of the biggest transsexual beauty contests in Thaliand and then afterwards goes stealth to compete against genetic females in Canada?
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04-03-2012 #10
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Re: GLAAD win's Miss Universe Debate
I don't know, an awesome, sexy one? Because really, it's just super cool that she's doing it, you know? If she could win, that'd be soooooo awesome.
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