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    Default Re: Court rRuling on Obamacare

    The car insurance one doesn't fly. You only have to by that if you have a car.



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    I still shake my head at the popular opposition to all this. It has to be the most successful con trick of all time, getting people to vote against something that is surely in their own best interest in both the short and long term.


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    Default Re: Court rRuling on Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by Prospero View Post
    The car insurance one doesn't fly. You only have to by that if you have a car.
    What's the insurance like on a flying car then?


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    Default Re: Court rRuling on Obamacare

    But if you do drive/own a car, you are still legally obliged to buy the insurance from the private sector, no? And consider the proportion of Americans who do own a car...that may not be universal but it must be a high % of the population.



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    True but it's not the same as arguing that everyone must buy something. you have a right not to own a car. You are legally obliged to "own" your body.



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    Default Re: Court rRuling on Obamacare

    Stand by.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by flabbybody View Post
    apparently Chief Justice Roberts was OK with Obamacare as long as the uninsured pay a 'tax' as opposed to a 'penalty'. Lawyers and judges love their words.
    whatever.... you heard it here first when I predicted mandate would stand.
    I wonder if Bush would have been elected President in 2000 if Roberts had been in charge...............

    Nice call, flabbybody.


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    I can't speak for anyone else, my major objection to obamacare is the Federal usurpation of power. Health care is not a Federal issue, it is an issue that should be left to the individual State's. Many people (I see a lot of foreigners) have argued that it is perfectly okay for the government to demand that everyone buys health insurance because people who drive cars have to have insurance. Firstly, drivers have to have insurance for their automobile, not for themselves. Secondly, the laws regarding car insurance are determined by each individual State.

    Fortunately for me, the State of Missouri voted on and passed an ammendment to the State's constitution. We soundly rejected the individual mandate. However if the Governor or State legislation were to try to go back on that; or if obama were to try to force it on us, I will NEVER submit to it.


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    We "foreigners" as opposed to a gun packin' TV have an interest in this because it has a direct know-on effect on the wider issues of US politics. And that of course has a wide impact on global politics. So your slur is innappropriate. Your last Republican presidency inflicted immense damage on the world and on the US. We across the water pray another will not be in office in the near future.

    On a personal level half my family live in the US - an ALL support the affordable Care act. But then they don't live in Missouri... with its stone age political views.



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    Quote Originally Posted by loren View Post
    ... my major objection to obamacare is the Federal usurpation of power. Health care is not a Federal issue, it is an issue that should be left to the individual State's. ...

    ...However if the Governor or State legislation were to try to [mandate a healthcare policy]; or if obama were to try to force it on us, I will NEVER submit to it.
    So...you'll go without any health insurance policy in order to show them how stubborn you are?



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